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这两把菊瓣壶有两种可能

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发表于 2016-4-18 14:18:02 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
THESE TWO POTS ARE EITHER MADE BY THE SAME POTTER OR ONEPOTTER COPYING THE OTHER……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
THIS COUPLE HAVE EXCELLENT TASTE IN ZISHAHU.
THE WIFE OWNED ZISHAHU NO:142 AND THE HUSBSAND OWNED ZISHAHUNO:637.
BOTH THESE POTS ARE CHRYSANTHEMUM-SHAPED AND WERE POTTEDEXCEEDINGLY WELL…..IN FACT SO WELL THAT IF YOU LOOK CLOSE UP AND FEEL THE TWOPOTS,YOU CAN SEE THEY CAME FROM SIMILAR SKILLFUL HANDS.
THEREFORE IT MUST BE THE SAME POTTER WHO MADE THESE TWO POTSOR ONE SKILLFUL  POTTER COPYING ANOTHERSKILLFUL POTTER(FOR I CAN’T SEE A COINCIDENCE WHEREBY TWO POTTERSSIMULTANEOUSLY CREATING TWO ORIGINAL SHAPES)
CAN YOU IMAGINE A YOUNG APPRENTICE NAMED SHAO DAHERN FIRSTTIME POTTING AND MAKING POTS WITHOUT PUTTING HIS NAME ON THE POT OUT OF RESPECTTO HIS MASTER AND/OR BECAUSE YOU DO NOT PUT YOUR NAME ON POTS WHEN YOU WERE ANUNKNOWN ,NEW UPSTART.(THE TWO POTS ARE SO SIMILAR IN FINE POTTING EXCEPT ONLYFOR THE DIFFERENT SIZES,SPOUTS AND TIMELINES)
ANOTHER POSSIBILITY WAS THAT SHAO DAHERN MADE POT NO:142 BY COPYING THE SHAPE OF POT NO:637 WHICH WASPOTTED BY AN OLD MASTER HE RESPECTED.
DURING THE LEARNING PROGRAM,WE WILL LET YOU SEE AND ANALYZETHE POTS CLOSE UP….TO LET YOU MAKE YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.
DIFFERENT TIMELINES BECAUSE THE HUSBAND DIED AT LEAST 10YEARS EARLIER AND THE POT COULD BE EVEN EARLIER….STRETCHING INTO JIAQINGPERIOD(AS WITNESSED BY THE JIAQING PERIOD SPOUT AND THE JIAQING/LATE QIAN LONGROUCHEN CUP)
SO WE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT A CASE OF A YOUNG SHAO DAHERNHERE WHO CREATED BOTH THE TWO POTS OR A CASE OF SHAO DAHERN WHO CREATED POTNO:142 BY COPYING  POT NO:637.
IF POT NO:637 IS NOT SHAO DAHERN,THEN IT MUST BE AN OLDMASTER POTTER WHOM SHAO DAHERN RESPECT AND SAW FIT TO IMITATE.
WHICHEVER THE CASE,ONE THING IS CERTAIN: WE ARE THEBENEFICIARY OF THEIR LEGACIES.
ENJOY THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL POSTING.
P/S….ITS AMAZING REN FU COLLECTIONS CAN GIVE YOU SUCHCUTTING-EDGE,INDEPTH AND NEVER BEFORE POSSIBLE CASE STUDY OF AN OLD MASTER .THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE WITH THE HELP OFARCHAEOLOGICAL EXCAVATIONS.
REN FU COLLECTIONS INVENTORY SHEET
1) OBJECT TYPE : YIXING TEAPOT
2) INVENTORY NO: 142
3) DESCRIPTION: JINNANG HUO
4) PERIOD/DATE : QIAN LONG DAOGUANG 14TH YEAR REIGN
5) PLACE OF ORIGIN: YIXING CHINA.
6) ARTIST/MAKER:SHAO DAHERN
7) MATERIAL: PURPLE CLAY
8) FINDSPOT: CLASIIFIED
9) FINDDATE: CLASSIFIED
10) DIMENSIONS:HT:REFER L:8.2CM  HT:6.4CM
11) BIBLIOGRAPHIC REFERENCES: REFER TO COMING 2ND BOOK
12) ARCHAEOLOGICAL COMMENT:SEPARATED COUPLE TOMBS.WIFE’S TOMB STILL INTACT WITHEPITAPH.
13) EXPERT COMMENT:ALL EXPERTS KNOW THIS POT IS DAOGUANG
REN FU COLLECTIONS INVENTORY SHEET
1) OBJECT TYPE : YIXING TEAPOT
2) INVENTORY NO: 637
3) DESCRIPTION: JINNANG HUO
4) PERIOD/DATE : REFER TO ARCHAEOLOGICAL COMMENT
5) PLACE OF ORIGIN: YIXING CHINA.
6) ARTIST/MAKER:UNMARKED-REFER TO STORY
7) MATERIAL: PURPLE CLAY
8) FINDSPOT: CLASIIFIED
9) FINDDATE: CLASSIFIED
10) DIMENSIONS:HT:12CM  L:8.5CM
11) BIBLIOGRAPHIC REFERENCES: REFER TO COMING 2ND BOOK
12) ARCHAEOLOGICAL COMMENT:THE HUSBAND’S TOMB PARTLY COLLAPSED AND PARTLYDISINTEGRATED ,MOST LIKELY THE HUSBAND DIED AT LEAST 10 YEARS EARLIER
13) EXPERT COMMENT:ALL THE EXPERTS THINK THIS POT IS DAOGUANG.
这两把菊瓣壶有两种可能:
是由同一个老名家制作或者老名家仿造老名家的壶………
这对夫妇在紫砂壶选择上具有高品味。
妻子拥有的紫砂壶编号是:142,丈夫拥有紫砂壶的编号是:637
这两把菊瓣壶的制作工艺其实非常好,如果你仔细看了,也会认为两把壶来自类似的灵巧的双手。
因此到底是谁做了这两把壶,是同一个熟练的人做的,还是一位老名家仿做另一位老名家的制壶高手(我不可能看见一个奇妙的巧合,两位老名家发明两个原始造型菊瓣壶)。
你能想象一个年轻的学徒名叫邵大亨,第一次制作陶器时不把自己的名字放在壶身上,因为他尊敬他的师父和不是新手,或者还不出名的制壶者。
另一种可能性是,邵大亨做这把菊瓣壶编号142时,用来仿造另一把老师傅做的编号637号菊瓣壶(这把两把壶的手工艺相似,除了大小区别外,壶的时间和壶嘴有别)。
在学习的过程中,我们会让你看到和分析这两把壶的特点,让你自己得出结论。
不同的时间,因为丈夫死的比太太至少早10年,和这把壶编号637更早到嘉庆时期,因为它有嘉庆时期的壶嘴,还有同墓出土的若深瓷杯也是嘉庆时期或者玩乾隆时期的。
所以我们谈论结果是:这两把壶都是邵大亨制作的,还是大亨仿做老师傅的菊瓣壶编号637.
无论哪种情况,有一点是肯定的:我们收藏家是自己的遗产受益人。
享受考古张贴。
P / S:这个大墓是有钱人的夫妻墓分开做的,那位太太的墓标是道光14年,而丈夫的墓标是空的,应该是典型骄傲有个性的汉族,爱汉族国家者,不接受大清满族的统治(还有很多汉族墓在国外都是这样的没有放明确埋葬时间)。
其惊人的任富收藏所发掘的考古资料是了不起的,可以给你这样的前沿,深入和前所未有的,没有人有本书提出紫砂壶这样的重要的事。以前紫砂壶的故事死死的,这个人看了那个人吐出来,现在任富收藏给你以前没有听过的紫砂故事。这是唯一可能与考古发掘的帮助。
任富收藏的考古记录:
1)宝物类型:宜兴茶壶
2)编号:142
3)描述:筋囊货
4)年代:道光12
5)生产起源:中国宜兴
6)名家作者:邵大亨
7)原料:紫砂泥
8)找到的地方:机密
9)找到的时间:机密
10)尺寸:L=8.2CM,H=6.4CM
11)文献证明书: 参阅将要出版的第二本书。
12)考古的评论:是达官贵人的夫妻墓,是太太的有明确墓志铭。
13)专家的评论: 专家们讲都是道光时期。
任富收藏的考古记录:
1)宝物类型:宜兴茶壶
2)编号:637
3)描述:筋囊货
4)年代:嘉庆或乾隆晚期,根据考古评论
5)生产起源:中国宜兴
6)名家作者:听故事
7)原料:紫砂泥
8)找到的地方:机密
9)找到的时间:机密
10)尺寸: L=12CM,H=8.5CM
11)文献证明书:参考书将要来的第二本书
12)考古的评论: 这个目标没有明确时间,考古推断是嘉庆还是乾隆晚期的。
13)专家的评论:专家们推论这是道光。

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发表于 2016-4-18 17:40:43 | 显示全部楼层
这类菊瓣壶一般嘉道时期较多。
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