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如果没有考古发掘陈鸣远壶,然后陈鸣远的遗产是注定死了

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发表于 2016-5-4 09:56:52 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
IF THERE ARE NOARCHAEOLOGICALLY EXCAVATED CHEN MING YUAN POTS,THEN CHEN MING YUAN‘S LEGACY  IS  DOOMED……………………………………………………………………………..
THREE WEEKS AGO,AN OLDMAN IN MALAYSIA ASKED REN FU COLLECTIONS TO HELP AUTHENTICATE HIS COLLECTION OFZISHAHUS.
IN HIS COLLECTION WEREONE SHI DABIN,THREE CHEN MING YUAN AND ONE GU ZING ZHOU ZISHA HUS.
WE TOLD THE OLD(ANDQUITE WEALTHY) MAN,WE CANNOT AUTHENTICATE GU ZING ZHOU’S POT BECAUSE WE ONLYDEAL WITH PRE-DAOGUANG  ZISHA HUS AND SANTOH HUS.
THE SHI DABIN AND CHENMINGYUAN POTS WERE IN PERFECT CONDITION,SO WE TOLD THE OLD MAN,STRAIGHT IN THEFACE:YOUR SHI DABIN AND CHEN MING YUAN POTS ARE FAKES!
NOW,WE  TACKLETHIS CONSTANT MALAISE OF FAKE CHEN MING YUAN POTS BY ANALYZING  REN FUCOLLECTIONS CHEN MING YUAN POTS.
OUR FIRST 1,000POTS(600 ZISHA HUS AND 400 SANTOH HUS) PRODUCED 9 CHEN MING YUAN ZISHAHUS.
ALL 9 CHEN MING YUANZISHAHUS ARE GUANG HUO(AND WE ARE TOLD REN FU COLLECTIONS OTHER CHEN MING YUANPOTS IN THE OTHER 3,000 OVER POTS ARE ALSO GUANG HUO)
AND ALL THESE 9 CHENMING YUAN POTS BELONGED TO VERY RICH ,POWERFUL PEOPLE LIKE GUANG REN AND THEIRWIVES AND  WEALTHY BUSINESSMEN JUDGING BY THE  DESCRIPTIONS ON THEEPITAPH AND WEALTH  DISPLAYED BY THE TOMB..
IF THOSE PEANUT-SHAPEDOR PUMPKIN-SHAPED OR ARCHAIC BRONZE-SHAPED POTS  ,SOME PEOPLE CLAIMEDWERE  PURPORTEDLY  MADE BY CHEN MING YUAN,SURELY THEN ,REN FUCOLLECTIONS SHOULD HAVE ONE THAT LOOKS LIKE THOSE SHAPES.
BUT WHY HAVE WE NOTSEEN ONE OF THOSE SHAPES IN REN FU COLLECTIONS CHEN MING YUAN POTS?
WHATSMORE,THE BOOKSSAY  THAT SHI DABIN POT IS POPULAR INSIDE CHINA AND CHEN MING YUAN POT ISPOPULAR  OUTSIDE CHINA.
THE ANSWER ISSIMPLE:CHEN MING YUAN DID NOT MAKE THOSE KINDS OF POT..THOSE KINDS OF POTS AREFAKES!!
LIKE WE SAIDBEFORE:REN FU COLLECTIONS CHEN MING YUAN’S POTS HAVE EXACT DATING AND THEY CAMEFROM THE CORRECT PERIOD WHEN CHEN MING YUAN WAS POTTING,THAT WAS ,NAMELY,EARLYQIAN LONG ,YONGZHENG  AND  LATE  KANGXI PERIOD.WHETHER IT’S THEREAL CHEN MING YUAN OR NOT,WE BELIEVE THERE MUST BE REAL CHEN MING YUAN IN RENFU COLLECTIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BIGGEST ARCHAEOLOGICALLY EXCAVATEDCOLLECTION OF ZISHAHUS AND SANTOH HUS IN THE WORLD.
UNFORTUNATELY  WECANNOT SAY THE SAME THING FOR THOSE PEANUT-SHAPED OR PUMPKIN-SHAPED OR ARCHAICBRONZE-SHAPED CHEN MING YUAN POTS WHICH DO NOT HAVE PROOFS OF EXACT DATING LETALONE MADE BY CHEN MING YUAN.
JUST BECAUSE A FAMOUSPERSON SAYS A POT IS CHEN MING YUAN ON TELEVISION OR IN A BOOK,  DOESNOT  MEANS THE POT IS THE REAL CHEN MING YUAN.
WHERE ARE THE PROOFS?
ENJOY THE ARCHAEOLOGICALPOSTING.
P/S……IN OURPOSTINGS,OUR AIM IS TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK AND ASK QUESTIONS…BUT NOT TO JUSTBELIEVE AND FOLLOW LIKE SHEEP.REN FU COLLECTIONS HAVE ARCHAEOLOGICAL PROOFS INTHE FORMS OF PICTURES OF TOMBS AND TOMBSTONE EPITAPHS,HUMAN BONES,COFFIN WOODAND NAILS,BURNERS CHARCOAL,TEA LEAVES,COINS,CUPS,PLATES AND OTHER TEA WARES.
PICTURES OF TOMBS ANDTOMBSTONE EPITAPH ARE CLASSIFIED WHICH MEANS THAT THEY CAN BE SHOWN TOYOUPRIVATELY BUT NOT  ON THE PUBLIC  DOMAIN.
如果没有考古发掘陈鸣远壶,然后陈鸣远的遗产是注定死了........
三周以前,在马来西亚的一个老人问任富收藏可以帮鉴定他的收藏,在他的收藏里面有一把紫砂壶时大彬,三把陈鸣远和一把顾景舟的壶。
我们告诉老人家(非常富有的人)顾景舟的壶我们不会鉴定,因为我们只会道光以前的紫砂壶和汕头壶鉴定真伪。
时大彬壶和陈鸣远壶品相是在完美的条件,造型是花货。所以我们告诉老人家:你的这几把是假壶。现在,我们解决这个不断头痛关心假冒陈鸣远壶,通过分析任富收藏考古发掘出来的陈鸣远紫砂壶。
我们的第一个1000把壶出来9把带有陈鸣远款紫砂壶。
这9把陈鸣远款紫砂壶都是素面的光货(还有任富收藏的老板通知我在3000把紫砂壶里面还有其他的鸣远款紫砂壶都是素面光货壶)。这些拥有者的主人是有钱的商人,达官贵族和太太收藏下来的,从描述的墓志铭和财富的坟墓说明这一切。
如果像南瓜、青铜器、花生等之类型带有陈鸣远所做的紫砂壶是真的,这样讲任富收藏考古发掘的陈鸣远款壶最少有一个出来一把类似造型的,但是到现在为止一个也没有发现这种造型的鸣远款壶。
但是,为什么我们没有看到这些形状在任富收藏的陈鸣远壶呢?
另外,书中说:“海外竟求鸣远碟”之说法。
我们的答案很简单:陈鸣远没有做那种的壶(南瓜壶、青铜器和花生之类型),那种壶是假的仿造的!!
就像我们之前说的:任富收藏的陈鸣远壶有确切的年代,有证据可考的,时间是对的,意思是讲陈鸣远做壶的时期在康熙年、雍正年和乾隆早期的标准时间。不管我们的陈鸣远壶是真的还是老仿的,我们相信任富收藏的鸣远壶一定有本人制作的作品,因为我们是世界上最大的考古发掘紫砂壶和汕头壶。
很可惜,我们不可以支持那种造型的壶(像南瓜壶、青铜器造型壶、花生造型的鸣远款造型壶等),因为他们没有考古发掘的证据出现和确切年代,所以这种造型的壶更谈不上是陈鸣远的。
你不可以只因为有名人和专家在电视台或者书里面讲这把壶是陈鸣远的,你就应该相信这把壶真的就是陈鸣远的作品。我们问他们证据在哪里?
享受考古张贴。
P / S在我的帖子......,我们的目的是让人们思考和提问…
但你不可以不相信和人讲什么就是什么,并跟随像绵羊一样。
任富收藏有考古发掘证据,有墓志铭,图片的形式有考古证明人类的骨头,棺木头和钉子,燃烧木炭、茶叶、硬币、杯子、盘子和其他茶具等都可以进行科学仪器的鉴定。
墓碑上的墓志铭图片进行分类,是机密的,有必要会给重要的人看,图片不可以公开给大众。
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发表于 2016-5-4 14:05:26 | 显示全部楼层
作为玩壶者而言,这批出土器是老的就可以了,至于是不是陈鸣远的已不重要了。
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