一只当初没有人要的明代盖碗，请前辈门看看是什么款？

江南壶圣 · 发表于 2008-12-4 16:41:08

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一只当初没有人要的明代盖碗，请前辈门看看是什么款？

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江南壶圣 · 发表于 2008-12-5 14:59:09

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>蠡风山水</i>在2008-12-5 0:55:23的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>底足.口沿手法不像明器<另:图2为何剔透如犀角>不过确实少见,留款更少.希望能与壶兄更多交流. </div><br/></td>
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<p>是啊，多谢蠡风山水师姐共同探讨，图2确实像我说的那样，润如玉，透如犀角。</p>

江南壶圣 · 发表于 2008-12-5 15:09:02

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>pj</i>在2008-12-5 12:46:50的发言：</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>朴居</i>在2008-12-5 10:43:48的发言：</b><br/>
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<div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">宜</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">兴<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">陶</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">祖:<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">南</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">宋<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">蒋<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">邦</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">彦.<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">祝</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">贺<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">壶</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">圣<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">兄</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">改<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">写</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">历<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">史</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">！</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font> </div><br/></td>
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<p><font face="Verdana">那<font face="Verdana">些</font><font face="Verdana">盖<font face="Verdana">碗</font><font face="Verdana">超<font face="Verdana">过</font><font face="Verdana">明<font face="Verdana">了</font><font face="Verdana">，<font face="Verdana">，</font><font face="Verdana">，</font></font></font></font></font></font></p></div><br/></td>
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<p>在江苏南京附近出土的此类砂器，据有关专家研究都为明代及明以前的宜兴紫砂。</p>

江南壶圣 · 发表于 2008-12-5 15:33:05

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>zhangyi</i>在2008-12-5 13:17:54的发言：</b><br/>
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<div><img title="中国壶迷论坛" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www2.zghmbbs.com/images/emot/em230.gif" onload="imgresize(this);" align="middle" border="0"/>是否同名，不要弄成天大的笑话哦<img title="中国壶迷论坛" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www2.zghmbbs.com/images/emot/em55.gif" onload="imgresize(this);" align="middle" border="0"/> </div><br/></td>
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<p>是否同名，正在研究考证，本人还有一件更老的砂壶，也在研究考证，我的网名《江南壶圣》指的是那把不可再老的壶，我把那壶取名为《壶圣》，并非我是壶圣，我的网名就是由那壶起名。<br/>      关于起名《壶圣》的那把壶，等到时机成熟时，我就发上来和大家探讨，但是现在还不能发上来，对不起，请大家多多包含。</p>

砂壶轩 · 发表于 2008-12-5 16:08:57

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>江南壶圣</i>在2008-12-5 15:33:05的发言：</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>zhangyi</i>在2008-12-5 13:17:54的发言：</b><br/>
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<div><img title="中国壶迷论坛" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www2.zghmbbs.com/images/emot/em230.gif" onload="imgresize(this);" align="middle" border="0"/>是否同名，不要弄成天大的笑话哦<img title="中国壶迷论坛" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www2.zghmbbs.com/images/emot/em55.gif" onload="imgresize(this);" align="middle" border="0"/> </div><br/></td>
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<p>是否同名，正在研究考证，本人还有一件更老的砂壶，也在研究考证，我的网名《江南壶圣》指的是那把不可再老的壶，我把那壶取名为《壶圣》，并非我是壶圣，我的网名就是由那壶起名。<br/>      关于起名《壶圣》的那把壶，等到时机成熟时，我就发上来和大家探讨，但是现在还不能发上来，对不起，请大家多多包含。</p></div><br/></td>
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<p>那就先把大彬壶的完整底款发上来吧,谢谢!</p>

面南背北 · 发表于 2008-12-5 12:11:20

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>朴居</i>在2008-12-5 10:43:48的发言：</b><br/>
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<div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">宜</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">兴<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">陶</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">祖:<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">南</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">宋<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">蒋<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">邦</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">彦.<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">祝</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">贺<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">壶</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">圣<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">兄</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">改<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">写</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">历<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">史</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">！</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font> </div><br/></td>
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<p><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">改<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">写</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">历<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">史</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">！</font></font></font></p>

pj · 发表于 2008-12-5 12:46:50

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>朴居</i>在2008-12-5 10:43:48的发言：</b><br/>
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<div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">宜</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">兴<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">陶</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">祖:<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">南</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">宋<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">蒋<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">邦</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">彦.<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">祝</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">贺<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">壶</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">圣<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">兄</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">改<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">写</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">历<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">史</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">！</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font> </div><br/></td>
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<p><font face="Verdana">那<font face="Verdana">些</font><font face="Verdana">盖<font face="Verdana">碗</font><font face="Verdana">超<font face="Verdana">过</font><font face="Verdana">明<font face="Verdana">了</font><font face="Verdana">，<font face="Verdana">，</font><font face="Verdana">，</font></font></font></font></font></font></p>

陶陶 · 发表于 2008-12-5 13:17:54

是否同名，不要弄成天大的笑话哦

朴居 · 发表于 2008-12-5 13:50:29

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<div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">宜</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">兴<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">陶</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">祖:<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">南</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">宋<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">蒋<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">邦</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">彦.<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">祝</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">贺<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">壶</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">圣<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">兄</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">改<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">写</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">历<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">史</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">！</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font> </div><br/></td>
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<p><font face="Verdana">那<font face="Verdana">些</font><font face="Verdana">盖<font face="Verdana">碗</font><font face="Verdana">超<font face="Verdana">过</font><font face="Verdana">明<font face="Verdana">了</font><font face="Verdana">，<font face="Verdana">，</font><font face="Verdana">，</font></font></font></font></font></font></p></div><br/></td>
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<p><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">开</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">个<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">玩</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">笑<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">嘛</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">！</font></font></font></p>

静远 · 发表于 2008-12-5 18:05:15

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>老紫砂</i>在2008-12-5 17:04:24的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>期待早日拜见“壶圣”。。。 </div><br/></td>
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<p><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana">拜</font><font face="Verdana">壶<font face="Verdana">圣</font>,<font face="Verdana">看<font face="Verdana">大<font face="Verdana">彬------</font></font></font></font></font></p>

江南壶圣 · 发表于 2008-12-4 20:54:22

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>朴居</i>在2008-12-4 17:14:18的发言：</b><br/>
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<div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">前</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">辈:<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">我</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">认<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">为<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">是</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">清<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">末</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">民<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">初</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">的<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">东<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">西</font>.</font></font></font></font></font></font></font> </div><br/></td>
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<p>   大哥，<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">清<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">末</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">民<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">初</font><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">的<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">东<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Verdana">西工没有这么粗糙，古朴，外表风化也没有这么厉害（你把  1   图和 3  图放大后看了便明白了），再看盖碗和盖罐有款的，在盖上也是少见，款一般都在器底和盖内，盖六方款的更是少见。<br/>    像这只碗内，外表红的犹如古玉般的滋润更是少见，非几百年的时间孕育，是不会出现这种包奖的，每当夏天来到时，放这只茶碗的房间茶香总是---芳气满闲軒，不是我说的太神了 , 事实真是这样 .  到秋天时随着气温的下降 ,茶香就悄悄地消失了 ,年复一年 ,年年到夏天都是芳气满闲軒  , 茶香来时碗的外表都会出现一成茶油 .</font></font></font></font></font></p>

老紫砂 · 发表于 2008-12-4 21:18:58

<p>盖上的款是否“蒋挹彦制”？</p>

江南壶圣 · 发表于 2008-12-4 22:20:17

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>老紫砂</i>在2008-12-4 21:18:58的发言：</b><br/>
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