黄建亮说任富收藏的考古发掘不是“考古”发掘的

任富收藏 · 发表于 2016-8-11 12:42:12

HUANG QIAN LIANG SAYS REN FU COLLECTIONS’ ARCHAEOLOGICALEXCAVATIONS ARE NOT ARCHAEOLOGICAL EXCAVATIONS….BECAUSE WE SAY HE DOES NOT KNOWHOW TO SEE POTS……………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

ARCHAEOLOGICAL EXCAVATIONS OR MATERIALS WHETHER LEGAL OR NOTLEGAL,ALLOWED OR NOT ALLOWED,LAND SALVAGED(LIKE OURS) OR NOT LANDSALVAGED,SANCTIONED BY HUANG QIAN LIANG OR NOT………FOR LEARNING THEY ARE THE SAMEAND SERVE THE SAME PURPOSE BECAUSE THE EXCAVATED POTS ARE GENUINE;THE EXCAVATEDROUCHEN CUPS AND PLATES ARE GENUINE;THE EXCAVATED HUMAN BONES ARE GENUINE;THEEXCAVATED WATER BOILERS AND BIURNERS AREGENUINE;THE EXCAVATED COFFIN WOOD AND NAILS ARE GENUINE;THE EXCAVATED BURNERS’CHARCOAL,COINS,JADES,ETC…. ARE ALL GENUINE. THEY ARE ALL VITAL,ESPECIALLY THEHUMAN BONES, FOR THE EXACT DATING OF THE POT.

NOT TO MENTION THE KING OF EXACT DATING: THE TOMBSTONEEPITAPH.

IF THIS IS NOT ARCHAEOLOGICAL EXCAVATIONS OR MATERIALS,WHATIS? WE ASK HUANG QIAN LIANG.

OR BETTER STILL ,WE CHALLENGED HUANG QIAN LIANG ,WHETHER HEIS A FAKE OR REN FU COLLECTIONS IS A FAKE,BY SENDING OUR ARCHAEOLOGICALLYEXCAVATED PRE-DISTURBANCE PHASE ZISHAHU WITH CUP,PLATE,HUMAN BONES,COFFINWOOD,COINS,BURNER’S CHARCOAL AND EVEN THE TOMBSTONE EPITAPH TO WORLD FAMOUS OXFORDAUTHENTICATION AT OXFORD UNIVERSITY,ENGLAND TO GET A SECOND OPINION.

WE FIRST MET HUANG QIAN LIANG IN 2011,AND WE SHOWED HIM 10PRE-DAOGUANG POTS AND ASKED FOR HIS OPINION.

HE GUESSED 4 POTS RIGHT BUT GUESSED 6 POTS WRONG(A FEW WAYOFF THE MARK).

AND WE ASKED HIM HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST FOR HIM TO GIVE US ACERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTCITY FOR EACH POT?

HE SAID,”THE SAME AS YOU PAID FOR THE CERTIFICATE OFAUTHENTICITY IN CHINA:RMB 2,000.(WE WILL TELL YOU ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCE IN CHINALATER)

NOW,HOW CAN WE PAY RMB 2,000 FOR A FRAUDULENT CERTIFICATE OFAUTHENTICITY BY SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A REAL EXPERT IN PRE-DAOGUANG ZISHAHU?

AND IF HUANG QIAN LIANG OR HIS PEOPLE SAY WE ARE LYING,THENWE CAN SHOW HIM TWO OR THREE POTS AND ASK HIM TO DATE THEM OR GIVE US THENIANDE AS THEY SAY IN CHINESE……

DO YOU DARE HUANG QIAN LIANG BECAUSE WE CAN PROVE YOU ARE AFAKE OLD ZISHAHU EXPERT.

ENJOY THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL POSTINGS.

P/S….A FEW TAIWANESE FRIENDS HAVE WARNED US OF A GANG OFTHREE(SOME SAY FOUR) FRAUDSTERS::ONE IS A FAMOUS SCHOLAR AND WRITES BOOKS;ONE AWELL-KNOWN AUCTION HOUSE EXPERT WHOAUTHENTICATES AND ONE A WELL-KNOWN AUCTION HOUSE APPRAISER .THE FIRST WRITESABOUT A FAKE POT (MIXED WITH OLD POTS) TO PROVIDE PROVENANCE, THE OTHER TWOAUTHENTICATE,APPAISE AND PUT THE FAKE POTS (AGAIN MIXED WITH OTHER PEOPLE’S OLDPOTS) TO SELL AT AN AUCTION.

REN FU COLLECTIONS INVENTORY SHEET
1) OBJECT TYPE : YIXING TEAPOT
2) INVENTORY NO: 75
3) DESCRIPTION: GUANG HUO
4) PERIOD/DATE: MIDDLE QIAN LONG
5) PLACE OF ORIGIN: YIXING CHINA.
6) ARTIST/MAKER: HUI MENG CHEN(THE BEST MENGCHENZHUNI EVER MADE:BIG & PERFECT)
7) MATERIAL: PURPLE CLAY
8) FINDSPOT: CLASSIFIED
9) FINDDATE: CLASSIFIED
10) DIMENSIONS: HT-REFER TO YIXING WARES OF EARLYQING DYNASTY FOUND IN NANYANG
11) BIBLIOGRAPHIC REFERENCES: REFER TO YIXING WARESOF EARLY QING DYNASTY FOUND IN NANYANG

12) ARCHAEOLOGICAL COMMENT: WITHFULL SET OF TEA WARES EXCAVATED
13) EXPERT COMMENT: IN 2011 HUANG QIAN LIANG SAIDTHIS ZHUNI HU IS GUANGXU(LATE QING)

黄建亮说任富收藏的考古发掘不是“考古”发掘的…

因为我们说他不知道如何看老紫砂壶......

考古发掘或材料是否合法或不合法的，允许或不允许，抢救（我们这样的）或不是抢救，偷或者是借来的…...用来学习他们的性质是一样的。服务于同一目的因为出土的紫砂壶都是真的；出土的青花杯子和盘子是真实的；出土的人骨骸是真的；出土的水锅和风炉都是炉是真实的；出土的棺木和钉子是真实的；出土的炉炭，钱币，玉器等等都是真的。他们都是重要的，特别是几百年先人的骨骸，为确切检测年代的壶。

更不用说确切的年代鉴定王：墓碑上的墓志铭。

如果这不是考古发掘或材料，是什么？我们问黄建亮。

或者更好的是，我们质疑黄建亮，他说的是假的或任富收藏考古是假的？我们可以考古发掘出来的还未清洗的紫砂壶、杯、盘、主人的棺木、钱币、煤炭、骨骸等等其他出土物，甚至墓碑上的墓志铭，送去世界著名的英国牛津大学（OXFORDUNIVERSITY），获得第二建议。来看我们讲的年代是对的吗？还是黄健亮讲的对？

我们第一次见到黄建亮是在2011年，我们给他鉴赏10把紫砂壶，问他的意见。（但那时他不知道我们是考古发掘有具体年代）。

他猜了4把壶是对的，但猜错了6把壶（有几道关了）。

我们问他，假如出一把鉴定紫砂壶的鉴定证书需要多少钱？他说：“和你在中国的鉴定书一样，人民币2000元（我们以后会告诉你在中国的经验）。

现在，我要问：“哪里可以付人民币2000元给一个不是真正专家来鉴定道光以前的紫砂壶？”

如果黄建亮和支持他的人说我们在撒谎（他的权利大，资深玩家支持他得人多），那么我们可以给他两或三把壶问他什么年代的？看他敢吗？

享受考古的帖子。

P / S：几个台湾好朋友，提醒我们有一个三人班（有些讲四人班）的骗子：一个是著名的学者写的书，一个知名拍卖行的专家评估和一个知名拍卖行鉴定。第一次写关于一个假壶（混合真的老物）提供物源，其他两个认证、评估并把假壶（又夹杂着别人的旧壶）在拍卖会上出售。

任富收藏的考古记录：
(1)宝物类型：宜兴茶壶
(2)编号： 75
(3)描述：光货
(4)年代：乾隆中期
(5)生产起源：中国宜兴
(6)名家作者：惠孟臣
(7)原料：紫砂
(8)找到的地方：机密
(9)找到的时间：机密
(10)尺寸：可以参考《海丝茶烟/南洋出土早清宜兴紫砂壶》书籍
(11)文献证明书：可以参考《海丝茶烟/南洋出土早清宜兴紫砂壶》书籍

(12)考古的评论：出土时有一套的茶具。

(13)专家的评论：在2011年黄建亮猜测是清光绪时期（晚清时期）。