评论梁权的古壶不对

任富收藏

梁权先生你错了；你已经被你的老师教错误的东西，不管是谁…………

任汤尼不是跟着人学的（因为没有真正的老紫砂壶的老师，没有一个人真的知道老紫砂壶，因为以前很少看见考古出土紫砂壶）。

任汤尼学老壶是因为来研究真和假的市场壶，和来比较任富收藏的大量考古发掘的宜兴茶壶和茶具，直到现在没有人可以进去研究，除了任汤尼。

梁权先生我们可以问你的老师是谁吗？

还是你自己教自己的，在市场上和书上来学习的的呢（但是市场上大多数是假壶）。

或者更好的是，我们为什么不问问台湾“老手”他们比黄健亮懂得更多知识，因为台湾老手在上世纪70年代开始收藏了，而黄健亮学习紫砂老壶是在20年前（1996年）才开始。

但是很遗憾的告诉梁权先生，我们台湾老手的朋友告诉我们你的壶是假的。

另一件事是，梁权先生，你作为一个论坛的老板，有一小群人跟到你，相信你，你可以控制，负起责任来……任汤尼来自伦敦，也将会暴漏在社交网站上如面子书、微信、微博、谷歌，中英文解释。

你知道吗？任汤尼实际上已经显示了你的壶欧美一些紫砂壶的朋友询问他们的意见。

梁权先生想知道欧洲和美国的紫砂壶朋友如何说吗？他们说：“这个梁权的老壶看着怪怪的，一比任富收藏的壶。“

他们补充说，“还讲任富收藏的壶每个都有考古证据，不需要考虑真假问题。

任福的藏品有考古证据像墓志铭，若深杯、盘、炉、热水锅炉、硬币、人骨、棺木头和钉子，炉炭甚至茶等等，但是梁权的壶有什么证据呢？除了他的话他自己讲都是真的老。”

关心这个腐蚀和钙的鉴定，美国和欧洲的朋友讲：“看新，腐蚀一点都没有，光光亮亮，品相全部完好。”

任汤尼告诉这些高明智商的西方朋友，关于梁权的借口，为什么梁权的出土壶不同于任富收藏的出土壶呢？梁权先生说：“因为中国的土质和南洋的土质不一样，所以中国出土壶和南洋出土后的壶就不一样。”

因此西方人的朋友笑着说：“中国人是聪明的人，我们不相信在中国的博客中国人如此轻信的被吞噬，除非他们是同伙的一起来骗！不管在哪个国家里出土的紫砂老壶（美国，日本，中国，东南亚国家），腐蚀和钙的生长是相同的在这个星球上，骗不了我们，但是他们里面的人合作起来一起来骗客户买家。”（顺便说一句，梁权的壶没有百年的腐蚀或钙的增长）。

好的，梁权先生我们先谢谢你对任富收藏的肯定支持真正的老壶（我们的敌人也不能否认），但我们也不能让你创造老紫砂壶的混淆。

梁权先生，你有讲故事的天赋，是一个有本事的，我们喜欢你，我们应该合作起来一起来救老紫砂壶市场不要乱，不要讲这些不对的假壶是真的。

如果你卖你要贴出来的这些壶，你会害到很多人，人赚钱都是辛苦的，我们一直反对紫砂假壶。

如果我们允许你欺骗人，那么人们就会学到错误的东西，人们会遭受经济损失。

我们相信你不懂你贴出来的老壶是假的仿造壶，我们希望你停下来，不要再卖仿壶了，我们要让你和我们一起合作来为到老紫砂壶做一些好事。

如果你不要和我们合作，来做这个好事，我们也没办法，逼到就只能给世界的人看你的假壶（和你的人的照片）。

如果你给我们删掉这个帖子在你的联盟论坛，说明你不让人评论你的壶是假的，你不承认，我们因此会停止在你的论坛发帖了，因为任富收藏的壶帖子很紧张的，壶友们想看到真正考古发掘出来的老壶进行学习。

不要忘记任富收藏的发表只是给中国和台湾人看，还有世界的其他各个国家的人在关注。

梁权先生请不要把我们的话当成是一个威胁，但把它作为一个机会，一个邀请做的东西真的很好，你的才华，老紫砂壶，人们敬仰和尊重你。会有更多的人为你一起鼓掌，那些卖仿壶的骗子们不会为我们鼓掌！

不喜欢这个帖子而感到愤怒，愤怒对骗子不断受害的人。

P / S：梁权先生，你仍然可以赚很多钱在任富收藏，同时做一些好事，为到老紫砂壶好，做一个历史，因为老紫砂壶要被仿壶淹死了。

一些人说：“从现在起五十年后或一百年后，人们还会记得和讲任富收藏，甚至书里面的藏品也是借用任富收藏的好名，仅有的遗产和保存老紫砂壶的贡献。”

任富收藏

LIANG QUAN,YOU ARE WRONG;YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT WRONG THINGS BY YOUR TEACHERS,WHOEVER THEY MIGHT BE……………………………………………………………….
TONY REN LEARNS ABOUT OLD ZISHAHU NOT FROM HUMAN TEACHERS(BECAUSE THERE ARE NO GENUINE OLD ZISHAHU TEACHERS)
TONY REN LEARNS ABOUT OLD ZISHAHU FROM STUDYING OLD AND FAKE POTS IN THE MARKET,AND COMPARING THEM TO REN FU COLLECTIONS’ HUGE COLLECTION OF ARCHAEOLOGICALLY EXCAVATED YIXING TEAPOTS AND TEA WARES WHICH UNTIL NOW,NOBODY BUT ONLY TONY REN HAS ACCESS TO.
MR.LIANG QUAN,MAY WE ASK WHO YOUR TEACHER/S IS/ARE?
OR ARE YOU,MR.LIANG QUAN,SELF TAUGHT AND YOU STUDY POTS FROM BOOKS AND WHAT YOU SEE IN THE MARKET?(MOST OF THE “OLD” POTS IN THE MARKET ARE FAKES)
OR BETTER STILL,WHY DON’T WE ASK THE TAIWANESE “OLD HANDS”WHO HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE THAN HUANG QIAN LIANG BECAUSE THE TAIWANESE “OLD HANDS” STARTED LEARNING ABOUT OLD ZISHAHU IN THE 1970S AND HUANG QIAN LIANG ONLY STARTED LATER IN 1996.
BUT WE ARE SORRY TO TELL YOU,MR.LIANG QUAN,OUR TAIWANESE “OLD HANDS” FRIENDS INFORMED US THAT YOUR POTS ARE FAKES.
ANOTHER THING IS THAT,MR.LIANG QUAN,YOU ARE TALKING AS A BOSS OF A CHINA BLOG WITH A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT YOU CONTROLLED…BUT TONY REN ,WHO IS FROM LONDON,PUT AND EXPOSE YOU ON FACEBOOK,WECHAT,GOOGLE: WWW.RENFUCOLLECTIONS.COM.,WEIBO,AND A FEW CHINA BLOGS IN ENGLISH AND CHINESE.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? TONY REN HAS ACTUALLY SHOWN YOUR POTS TO SOME EUROPEAN AND AMERICAN ZISHAHU FRIENDS TO ASK FOR THEIR OPINIONS.
DO YOU MR.LIANG QUAN KNOW WHAT THE EUROPEAN AND AMERICAN FRIENDS SAID? THEY SAID,”WHAT NONSENSE THAT MAN LIANG QUAN CLAIMS HIS POTS ARE ALL OLD AND UNEARTHED POTS”
THEY ADDED,”REN FU COLLECTIONS HAS ARCHAEOLOGICAL PROOFS LIKE TOMBSTONE EPITAPHS,ROUCHEN CUPS,PLATES,BURNERS,WATER BOILERS,COINS,HUMAN BONES,COFFIN WOOD AND NAILS,BURNERS’ CHARCOAL AND EVEN TEA LEAVES…BUT WHAT DOES THIS LIANG QUAN MAN HAS TO PROVE THAT HIS POTS ARE GENUINE OLD?..NOTHING!
“YES,THIS LIANG QUAN CANNOT PROVE ANYTHING EXCEPT HIS WORDS SAYING HIS POTS ARE GENUINE OLD”.
AND TONY REN TOLD THESE HIGHLY INTELLIGENT WESTERNER FRIENDS ABOUT LIANG QUAN’S EXCUSE WHY LIANG QUAN’S UNEARTHED POTS ARE DIFFERENT FROM REN FU COLLECTIONS’ UNEARTHED POTS?IANG QUAN SAYS THE EARTH IN NANYANG AND THE EARTH IN CHINA ARE DIFFETRENT SO HIS CHINA UNEARTHED POTS ARE DIFFERENT(LOOK DIFFRERENT) FROM NANYANG UNEARTHED POTS.
THEREBY THE WESTERNER FRIENDS LAUGH AND REMARKED,”CHINESE PEOPLE ARE CLEVER PEOPLE AND WE DON’T BELIEVE THE CHINESE PEOPLE IN LIANG QUAN’S BLOG ARE SO GULLIBLE AS TO GOBBLE UP THAT RUBBISH UNLESS THEY ARE COHORTS!”
WHAT THEY MEANT WERE,”CORROSION AND CALCIFEROUS GROWTHS ARE THE SAME ANYWHERE ON THIS PLANET AND ALL COUNTRIES SHARE A COMMON EARTH THAT YOU DON’T NEED A GALLILEO OR ISAAC NEWTON TO EXPLAIN THAT THIS MAN IS TALKING RUBBISH”(…BY THE WAY,LIANG QUAN’S DO NOT HAVE HUNDRED OF YEARS OLD CORROSION OR CALCIFEROUS GROWTHS.)
WELL,YOU SEE MR.LIANG QUAN,WE THANK YOU FOR SAYING REN FU COLLECTIONS’ POTS ARE ALL GENUINE OLD(WHICH OUR ENEMIES CANNOT EVEN DENY) BUT WE CANNOT ALLOW YOU ,MR.LIANG QUAN, TO CREATE CHAOS IN OLD ZISHAHUWORLD.
MR.LIANG QUAN,YOU HAVE A GREAT TALENT FOR TELLING STORIES(WHICH ARE A LOT OF BUNKUM) AND WE INVITE YOU TO JOIN US AND TELL REN FU COLLECTIONS’ STORY TO SAVE OLD ZISHAHU INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DESTROY IT.
IF WE ALLOW YOU TO DECEIVE PEOPLE ,THEN PEOPLE WILL LEARN THE WRONG THING AND PEOPLE IS GOING TO SUFFER FINANCIAL LOSSES.
AN ASIDE:WE THINK THERE IS A POSSIBILITY MR.LING QUAN DOES NOT KNOW HIS POTS ARE FAKES( BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE TOLD US HE COULD BE SELLING THE FAKE POTS FOR FRIENDS)
PLEASE STOP, MR.LIANG QUAN AND WE,REN FU COLLECTIONS INVITE YOU TO JOIN US AND DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR OLD ZISHAHU.

IF YOU DON’T,THEN WE WILL MAKE YOU NOTORIOUS ALL OVER THE WORLD.
AND IF YOU REMOVE OUR POSTING ON YOUR CHINA BLOG,JUSTLIKE THE TAIWAN BLOG CONTROLLED BY HUANG QIAN LIANG,PENG QING FU AND LIU CHUAN SIN, IN WHICH THE GANG OF THREE REMOVE OUR POSTINGS YEARS AGO AND NOW VERY FEW PEOPLE GO INTO THEIR BLOG BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO SEE AND  WHAT FU COLLECTIONS HAS TO POST…WHICH ARE GENUINE ARCHAEOLOGICAL POSTINGS….YOU MIGHT SUFFER THE SAME FATE.
DO NOT FORGET REN FU COLLECTIONS POSTINGFS ARE WATCHED NOT JUST BY CHINESE AND TAIWANESE BUT JAPANESE,SOUTH KOREANS,EUROPEANS,AMERICANS,SINGAPOREANS,MALAYSIANS,VIETNAMESE,THAIS,AUSTRALIANS,,..YOU NAME IT!
THINK ABOUT IT MR.LIANG QUAN AND PLEASE DO NOT TAKE OUR POSTING AS A THREAT BUT TAKE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY,AN INVITATION TO DO SOMETHING REALLY GOOD ,WITH YOUR TALENT,FOR OLD ZISHAHU THAT PEOPLE LOOK UP TO AND RESPECT YOU FOR.
DO NOT ENJOY THIS POSTING BUT FEEL OUTRAGE AND INDIGNANCE TOWARDS  FRAUDSTERS WHO CONTINUALLY VICTIMIZED  PEOPLE.
JUST STOP A MINUTE TO THINK OF THE 64 YEAR OLD MAN MANY YEARS AGO IN BEIJING  WHO JUMPED FROM A SIXTH FLOOR OF A HOSPITAL TO HIS DEATH BECAUSE HE LOST ALL HIS MONEY BUYING FAKE WORKS OF ART  LIKE ZISHAHU FROM FRAUDSTERS LIKE PENG QING FU,HUANG QIAN LIANG AND LIU CHUAN SIN…THAT WE POSTED IN THE BEGINNING.
P/S…MR.LIANG QUAN,YOU CAN STILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY WITH REN FU COLLECTIONS AND AT THE SAME TIME DO SOMETHING GOOD AND HISTORY WILL REMEMBER YOU AS FIGHTING FOR OLD ZISHAHU AGAINST FRAUDSTERS.ITS A WIN-WIN SITUATION.
A FEW PEOPLE HAVE SAID,”FIFTY OR A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW,PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER AND STILL TALK ABOUT REN FU COLLECTIONS LEGACY AND ITS CONTRIBUTION TO SAVING OLD ZISHAHU.”
YES,WHETHER YOU LIKE US OR NOT AND DESPITE THE GANG OF THREE TRYING TO DESTROY US,REN FU COLLECTIONS HAS MADE HISTORY AND IS PART OF ZISHAHU HISTORY…BECAUSE NOBODY IN WORLD EXCEPT THE “ONE AND ONLY” REN FU COLLECTIONS HAVE THOUSANDS OF ARCHAEOLOGICALLY EXCAVATED TEAPOTS AND TEA WARES..A GREAT MILESTONE IN ZISHAHU HISTORY.

壶之铭

你的帖子看了多遍才略知其意，总体是你认为有人发出来的帖子是假壶。你说的人我也不认识，是否在卖假壶也不知道，仅凭你的帖子也不可判断。作为打假，壶迷都是支持的，但也曾经多次提醒你；壶迷论坛以壶论壶，对一把壶可以发表自己的观点，但千万不要指名道姓的涉及到个人。

任富收藏

壶之铭 发表于 2016-12-3 11:43
你的帖子看了多遍才略知其意，总体是你认为有人发出来的帖子是假壶。你说的人我也不认识，是否在卖假壶也不 ...

壶版多谢您的好意和赏评！这个人梁权在他的联盟网大张旗鼓的出售他的假壶，看了以后不得不让人反对他欺骗那些不懂的人，也就是一壶论壶，提醒他后他还说他的是真的，还讲出土壶的国家不同土质也不同，所呈现的腐蚀和钙也不同，都是荒谬的结论。所以才提出来给大家共赏。

壶之铭

其他网站的帖子我们不给予评判，未经他人同意也不得在壶迷论坛转载，主要是各论坛之间不要产生矛盾。其实要相信玩壶者的眼力，真假之间还是有杆秤的。

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壶之铭 发表于 2016-12-5 16:37
其他网站的帖子我们不给予评判，未经他人同意也不得在壶迷论坛转载，主要是各论坛之间不要产生矛盾。其实要 ...

同意壶版的观点与建议！