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发表于 2011-11-18 16:35:51 | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-18 16:57:24 | 显示全部楼层
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<p>兄弟的电脑技术不错,但此壶确定新仿,从他的形这是臆造的,从泥来看,应该也不是紫砂的,底款也不对,网上有真壶的这种底款,兄弟可以比较一下</p>
发表于 2011-11-18 21:57:44 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>敬雅轩</i>在2011-11-18 14:50:43的发言:</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>闲来清茶邀</i>在2011-11-18 14:16:21的发言:</b><br/>
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<div>仿品都称不上,纯为臆造之物。 器形、胎泥、款识都有可笑之处。<br/>另外再来说说历史:战争时期,宜兴的紫砂业受到的冲击很大,基本属于停产阶段。解放后,在1952年二月,成立了「汤渡陶业生产合作社」。1952年底,紫砂器生产逐步恢复,亦成立「宜兴紫砂产销联合营业处」。至1954年十月,裴、吴、朱、施、邵、范正根、范祖德等七位紫砂艺人组建紫砂工场,隶属于汤渡陶业生产合作社,即开始使用「汤渡陶业生产合作社」特定年代印款。印款为楷书图章「汤渡陶业生产合作社出品」。字款自右向左鑴刻,不同于现今自左向右。分圆章和方章两种,圆章较多,方章较为少见。该印款除加入紫砂工场从业人员使用,凡向民间订壶、供坯者亦使用此印款。印款沿用至「宜兴县蜀山陶业生产合作社」成立半年之后,但从来未见有「宜兴汤渡实业陶厂」字样图章款识。从此壶来处,不由得感叹天朝人丰富的想象力。<br/><strong><em><u><font size="5">我说了:不要说没有,你提供的不彻底。再去理理!</font></u></em></strong></div><br/></td>
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<p>资料祥细..兄要认真学习,你这确为仿壶..底款臆造,</p>
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-18 22:06:31 | 显示全部楼层
连“实业陶厂”的年份都没搞清就说臆造?而且说泥料不好我真佩服你敢发言!
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-18 22:16:25 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>pj</i>在2011-11-18 21:57:44的发言:</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>敬雅轩</i>在2011-11-18 14:50:43的发言:</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>闲来清茶邀</i>在2011-11-18 14:16:21的发言:</b><br/>
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<div>仿品都称不上,纯为臆造之物。 器形、胎泥、款识都有可笑之处。<br/>另外再来说说历史:战争时期,宜兴的紫砂业受到的冲击很大,基本属于停产阶段。解放后,在1952年二月,成立了「汤渡陶业生产合作社」。1952年底,紫砂器生产逐步恢复,亦成立「宜兴紫砂产销联合营业处」。至1954年十月,裴、吴、朱、施、邵、范正根、范祖德等七位紫砂艺人组建紫砂工场,隶属于汤渡陶业生产合作社,即开始使用「汤渡陶业生产合作社」特定年代印款。印款为楷书图章「汤渡陶业生产合作社出品」。字款自右向左鑴刻,不同于现今自左向右。分圆章和方章两种,圆章较多,方章较为少见。该印款除加入紫砂工场从业人员使用,凡向民间订壶、供坯者亦使用此印款。印款沿用至「宜兴县蜀山陶业生产合作社」成立半年之后,但从来未见有「宜兴汤渡实业陶厂」字样图章款识。从此壶来处,不由得感叹天朝人丰富的想象力。<br/><strong><em><u><font size="5">我说了:不要说没有,你提供的不彻底。再去理理!</font></u></em></strong></div><br/></td>
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<p>资料祥细..兄要认真学习,你这确为仿壶..底款臆造,</p></div><br/>兄:我先请教你,这把壶是不是紫砂?</td>
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发表于 2011-11-18 22:19:56 | 显示全部楼层
ㄞ!   任何網站,總是一段時間之後,就會出現”戰兵”!    歷史…典故熟透了,壺..不對,又有何用?!
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-18 22:32:43 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>石鼎</i>在2011-11-18 22:19:56的发言:</b><br/>
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<div>ㄞ! 任何網站,總是一段時間之後,就會出現”戰兵”! 歷史…典故熟透了,壺..不對,又有何用?! </div><br/></td>
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<td background="images/dispbbs/foot_c.gif">壶不对总有个说法,实业陶厂 是什么时候都没搞清就说是仿,未免太......我只想知道宜兴实业陶厂的时期,这是论坛研讨而已!<br/>
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发表于 2011-11-18 22:40:06 | 显示全部楼层
<p><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana">上</font><font face="Verdana">壶<font face="Verdana">迷</font><font face="Verdana">论<font face="Verdana">坛</font><font face="Verdana">者<font face="Verdana">皆</font><font face="Verdana">无<font face="Verdana">利</font><font face="Verdana">害<font face="Verdana">冲<font face="Verdana">突</font><font face="Verdana">,<font face="Verdana">壶</font><font face="Verdana">友</font><font face="Verdana">没</font><font face="Verdana">有<font face="Verdana">必</font><font face="Verdana">要<font face="Verdana">来</font><font face="Verdana">否<font face="Verdana">定</font><font face="Verdana">你<font face="Verdana">的</font><font face="Verdana">壶<font face="Verdana">,<font face="Verdana">多</font><font face="Verdana">听<font face="Verdana">不</font><font face="Verdana">同<font face="Verdana">意</font><font face="Verdana">见<font face="Verdana">有</font><font face="Verdana">好<font face="Verdana">处</font><font face="Verdana">。</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></p>
发表于 2011-11-19 01:00:13 | 显示全部楼层
认真负责,仔细研究,深入考证是必须的!但这功夫应该花在真品,或疑似真品,甚至高仿品上。<br/>一眼假,一眼仿,臆造品,如果也花上面的功夫,我想谁也花不起,也没那必要。<br/>因为一眼假,一眼仿,臆造品太多太多了!!!说天文数字都不为过。<br/>望楼主朋友理解!
发表于 2011-11-19 09:38:12 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>敬雅轩</i>在2011-11-18 22:16:25的发言:</b><br/>
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<div>仿品都称不上,纯为臆造之物。 器形、胎泥、款识都有可笑之处。<br/>另外再来说说历史:战争时期,宜兴的紫砂业受到的冲击很大,基本属于停产阶段。解放后,在1952年二月,成立了「汤渡陶业生产合作社」。1952年底,紫砂器生产逐步恢复,亦成立「宜兴紫砂产销联合营业处」。至1954年十月,裴、吴、朱、施、邵、范正根、范祖德等七位紫砂艺人组建紫砂工场,隶属于汤渡陶业生产合作社,即开始使用「汤渡陶业生产合作社」特定年代印款。印款为楷书图章「汤渡陶业生产合作社出品」。字款自右向左鑴刻,不同于现今自左向右。分圆章和方章两种,圆章较多,方章较为少见。该印款除加入紫砂工场从业人员使用,凡向民间订壶、供坯者亦使用此印款。印款沿用至「宜兴县蜀山陶业生产合作社」成立半年之后,但从来未见有「宜兴汤渡实业陶厂」字样图章款识。从此壶来处,不由得感叹天朝人丰富的想象力。<br/><strong><em><u><font size="5">我说了:不要说没有,你提供的不彻底。再去理理!</font></u></em></strong></div><br/></td>
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<p>资料祥细..兄要认真学习,你这确为仿壶..底款臆造,</p></div><br/>兄:我先请教你,这把壶是不是紫砂?</td>
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<div style="CLEAR: both; OVERFLOW: hidden"></div><img alt="发贴心情" src="http://www.zghmbbs.com/skins/Default/topicface/face1.gif"/> 敬雅轩 说: </tr></tbody></table></div>
<p>是紫砂又能说明什么问题...如同地滩一个大清乾隆瓶..你问是不是瓷的..是不是大清乾隆年制。</p>
发表于 2011-11-19 12:07:10 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵!<br/>形制少见!<br/>
发表于 2011-11-19 17:37:00 | 显示全部楼层
<p>除了繁体字,真的没看出它有老的其他证据</p>
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-20 09:29:04 | 显示全部楼层
这么多壶友都不看好,也罢,难到是不是紫砂都不能肯定!!!!!!!!!!!!<br/>还有壶友说是紫砂又能怎样,&nbsp; 不需要怎样,只是有人说不是紫砂我想听听理由,盲目的学习一下!<br/>关于有没有“宜兴汤度实业陶厂”我想专业网请教下,居然,没人正确说明,看来很保守!
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