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面南背北

泥  型  款 装饰 韵味 风格 工艺  都相去甚远 所以这种壶不能碰。说句过头的，这种壶，连“仿”都够不上。

xingzhe2009

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>谢谢赐教，虚心学习中 ！<br/><br/>以下是引用<i>面南背北</i>在2009-5-17 11:08:32的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>泥&nbsp; 型&nbsp; 款 装饰 韵味 风格 工艺&nbsp; 都相去甚远 所以这种壶不能碰。说句过头的，这种壶，连“仿”都够不上。 </div><br/></td>
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面南背北

共同学习！<br/>坦诚的讲，我只是250水平，知些皮毛，所以要多学习，多看高手们的发言。

老茶古

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danghero

<p>玩紫砂，很多时候是看重它的文人气。我的理解紫砂的精神实质就是文人气。<br/><br/>你这个壶的一切信息都和文人气在背离。<br/><br/>这个壶违背了一些玩紫砂的基本要素</p>

[此贴子已经被作者于2009-5-17 16:00:35编辑过]

面南背北

朋友！此壶不是真与假的问题。

xingzhe2009

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">谢谢 藏壶 的关注！<br/><b><br/>当时买壶时，觉得这把壶的贴花工艺不错，当代的紫砂壶很少用贴花工艺；<br/><br/>此壶的贴花深得画理奥妙，有意趣、耐看，绝非粗制滥造的作品；<br/><br/>目前的紫砂作品大都以前人的经典款式为模仿对象，而缺乏原创精神，<br/><br/>或剑走偏锋标新立异，缺少了对传统工艺的继承，不耐把玩。<br/><br/>贴花工艺是紫砂艺术表现力的一种补充！<br/><br/>对于鉴定希望能做详细的论证，比如从底款、工艺、泥料等说明，而不是简单概括否定。<br/><br/>不喜欢媚俗的作品，喜欢特立独行有表现力的作品。<br/><br/>当然也不奢望为真品，紫砂历史上仿品何其多也，过多的拟古扼杀了紫砂的创造力！<br/><br/>以下是引用<i>藏壺</i>在2009-5-17 20:23:31的发言：</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>面南背北</i>在2009-5-17 11:08:32的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>泥&nbsp; 型&nbsp; 款 装饰 韵味 风格 工艺&nbsp; 都相去甚远 所以这种壶不能碰。说句过头的，这种壶，连“仿”都够不上。 </div><br/></td>
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<p></p>面管已經總結了老壶的鑑定法門!<br/>樓主若是不認同不妨說說自己的觀點,因為這類壶基本跟老壶仿壶沒有交集!可歸類為臆造品...<br/></div><br/></td>
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古宜陶

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藏壺

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>面南背北</i>在2009-5-17 11:08:32的发言：</b><br/>
       
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</div><p></p>面管已經總結了老壶的鑑定法門!<br/>樓主若是不認同不妨說說自己的觀點,因為這類壶基本跟老壶仿壶沒有交集!可歸類為臆造品...<br/>

南鹤

&nbsp;贴花太满太闷正是缺少画理违背画理的体现啊！！！

xingzhe2009

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><strong>国画讲究疏能走马，密不透风，和留白的艺术；随不一定是真品，但是画工画理还是有的；<br/><br/>牡丹适合画面饱满的表现，壶嘴下有枝叶过度背面，背面画面有留白；<br/><br/>牡丹花瓣、枝叶都充满变化，蝴蝶细致有动感；<br/><br/>就当收藏了紫砂贴花这个品类！<br/><br/>谢谢关注<br/><br/>以下是引用<i>linqh12</i>在2009-5-19 23:24:03的发言：</strong><br/>
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<div>&nbsp;贴花太满太闷正是缺少画理违背画理的体现啊！！！ </div><br/></td>
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pj

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>xingzhe2009</i>在2009-5-21 21:34:32的发言：</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><strong>国画讲究疏能走马，密不透风，和留白的艺术；随不一定是真品，但是画工画理还是有的；<br/><br/>牡丹适合画面饱满的表现，壶嘴下有枝叶过度背面，背面画面有留白；<br/><br/>牡丹花瓣、枝叶都充满变化，蝴蝶细致有动感；<br/><br/>就当收藏了紫砂贴花这个品类！<br/><br/>谢谢关注<br/><br/>以下是引用<i>linqh12</i>在2009-5-19 23:24:03的发言：</strong><br/>
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<div>&nbsp;贴花太满太闷正是缺少画理违背画理的体现啊！！！ </div><br/></td>
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<p>....................<font face="Verdana">赵</font><font face="Verdana">本<font face="Verdana">山<font face="Verdana">的</font><font face="Verdana">小<font face="Verdana">品</font>...<font face="Verdana">悲</font><font face="Verdana">哀<font face="Verdana">，<font face="Verdana">悲</font><font face="Verdana">哀<font face="Verdana">。</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></p>

xingzhe2009

<p>向大家学习！</p>

面南背北

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藏山应水

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>danghero</i>在2009-5-17 15:59:59的发言：</b><br/>
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<p>玩紫砂，很多时候是看重它的文人气。我的理解紫砂的精神实质就是文人气。<br/><br/>你这个壶的一切信息都和文人气在背离。<br/><br/>这个壶违背了一些玩紫砂的基本要素</p>
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<p>就算是普通的老壶也应有一种古朴的韵味<br/></p>