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发表于 2009-7-17 20:13:49 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-7-17 22:12:37 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>小代</i>在2009-7-17 10:18:24的发言:</b><br/>
       
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   <img src="skins/Default/topicface/face1.gif" alt="发贴心情"/> 小代 说:
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<div>近来这类壶见到不少哦.
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</div><p></p>近年是生產了不少,作舊手法稍有不同!
发表于 2009-7-18 00:33:19 | 显示全部楼层
地雷越埋越狠
发表于 2009-7-18 08:01:43 | 显示全部楼层
&nbsp; 兄再图没见! 用卿仍明祟祯人士,就刻中"茶"字就明显不到代(." 丷"和"卝"字头是一区别.).
发表于 2009-7-18 09:15:50 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>☆紫玉金砂☆</i>在2009-7-17 12:17:30的发言:</b><br/>
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<div>还是我自己说说此壶来历,专家们再给点意见吧!<br/>此壶于南京溧水县省级开发区出土,当时的出土地点为前韩村,(现已成平地)这里发现一片明末清初墓葬,当时我赶到现场时整地都是机器挖机工作,周围不少围观群众,只有全品他们才要,残品已被挖机翻滚埋到地里。与此壶同时挖出的还有铁剪、紫砂茶叶罐、瓷碗等,由于年份久远加之铁剪紧靠壶身放置,导致壶身一侧铁锈迹斑斑清晰可视。由同时出土的瓷碗有众多老藏家、瓷器古玩商认定为明末清初之物。此壶工艺特点:一是泥料与茶叶罐近似呈紫红色(壶内、盖内色泽),二是铁锈经反复处理,仍难除去,已和壶身融为一体。三是细部做工,嘴、把竹刀的修刮,与壶身的衔接,镂空钮与盖面的镶接,都能看到明细接痕,壶内指甲、指纹节腠印记环绕身筒一圈。盖内干净,流孔和出气孔圆椭不规。个人认为这些特点新壶是没必要去作旧的,如果新泥料作出这些特点会很变扭。 </div><br/></td>
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<p><font face="Verdana">故</font><font face="Verdana">事<font face="Verdana">很<font face="Verdana">生</font><font face="Verdana">动<font face="Verdana">,</font><font face="Verdana">每<font face="Verdana">把</font><font face="Verdana">老<font face="Verdana">壶</font><font face="Verdana">都<font face="Verdana">有</font><font face="Verdana">一<font face="Verdana">个</font><font face="Verdana">传<font face="Verdana">奇</font><font face="Verdana">故<font face="Verdana">事</font><font face="Verdana">。</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></p>
 楼主| 发表于 2009-7-18 09:43:44 | 显示全部楼层
陶醉居兄的意思是,茶字错了就不倒代?我认为用卿字体乃达到出神入化的境界,不排除他故意把字刻得难以辨认!总之泥料,做工我个人是有百分百把握!如果用顾景舟时期泥料做出这些特点,难道不会变扭吗?(瓷碗被一瓷器古玩商买走了,茶叶罐我买到了,等拍图后上传。)谢谢各位指点!
 楼主| 发表于 2009-7-20 11:57:59 | 显示全部楼层
大家好,“仿品”“新壶”几个字是很容易说出来的,但能否具体1、2、3详细说明呢?哪些部位看出仿?哪些看出新?还望各位一一指出,谢谢!!(那为什么同时出土的瓷碗他们都认定是明末清初之物?)
发表于 2009-7-19 12:07:02 | 显示全部楼层
期待细图欣赏馆藏级精品!谢谢
发表于 2009-7-19 21:36:16 | 显示全部楼层
发表于 2009-7-19 22:54:31 | 显示全部楼层
有故事的壶,等细图分解。。
发表于 2009-7-20 21:20:12 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>古宜陶</i>在2009-7-20 18:38:21的发言:</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>☆紫玉金砂☆</i>在2009-7-20 11:57:59的发言:</b><br/>
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<div>大家好,“仿品”“新壶”几个字是很容易说出来的,但能否具体1、2、3详细说明呢?哪些部位看出仿?哪些看出新?还望各位一一指出,谢谢!!(那为什么同时出土的瓷碗他们都认定是明末清初之物?) </div><br/></td>
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<p><font face="Verdana">很</font><font face="Verdana">难<font face="Verdana">回</font><font face="Verdana">答<font face="Verdana">紫</font><font face="Verdana">兄<font face="Verdana">问</font><font face="Verdana">题<img alt="" src="http://www.zghmbbs.com/Skins/default/topicface/face3.gif" onload="imgresize(this);"/><font face="Verdana">要</font><font face="Verdana">找<font face="Verdana">到</font><font face="Verdana">同<font face="Verdana">类</font><font face="Verdana">仿<font face="Verdana">品</font><font face="Verdana">需<font face="Verdana">费</font><font face="Verdana">很<font face="Verdana">大<font face="Verdana">精</font><font face="Verdana">力,<font face="Verdana">就</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">费<font face="Verdana">时</font><font face="Verdana">找<font face="Verdana">来</font><font face="Verdana">也<font face="Verdana">许</font><font face="Verdana">会<font face="Verdana">引</font><font face="Verdana">来<font face="Verdana">不</font><font face="Verdana">愉<font face="Verdana">快.<font face="Verdana">再<font face="Verdana">言<font face="Verdana">借</font><font face="Verdana">图<font face="Verdana">鉴</font><font face="Verdana">壶<font face="Verdana">都</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">个</font><font face="Verdana">人<font face="Verdana">看</font><font face="Verdana">法,<font face="Verdana">发</font><font face="Verdana">帖<font face="Verdana">者</font><font face="Verdana">需<font face="Verdana">要<font face="Verdana">的</font><font face="Verdana">结<font face="Verdana">果</font>-----<font face="Verdana">只<font face="Verdana">能</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">参<font face="Verdana">考</font>.</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></p></div><br/></td>
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<p>古兄应该是已经做了比较明朗的回答!!!</p>
发表于 2009-7-20 22:24:59 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>☆紫玉金砂☆</i>在2009-7-17 12:17:30的发言:</b><br/>
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<div>还是我自己说说此壶来历,专家们再给点意见吧!<br/>此壶于南京溧水县省级开发区出土,当时的出土地点为前韩村,(现已成平地)这里发现一片明末清初墓葬,当时我赶到现场时整地都是机器挖机工作,周围不少围观群众,只有全品他们才要,残品已被挖机翻滚埋到地里。与此壶同时挖出的还有铁剪、紫砂茶叶罐、瓷碗等,由于年份久远加之铁剪紧靠壶身放置,导致壶身一侧铁锈迹斑斑清晰可视。由同时出土的瓷碗有众多老藏家、瓷器古玩商认定为明末清初之物。此壶工艺特点:一是泥料与茶叶罐近似呈紫红色(壶内、盖内色泽),二是铁锈经反复处理,仍难除去,已和壶身融为一体。三是细部做工,嘴、把竹刀的修刮,与壶身的衔接,镂空钮与盖面的镶接,都能看到明细接痕,壶内指甲、指纹节腠印记环绕身筒一圈。盖内干净,流孔和出气孔圆椭不规。个人认为这些特点新壶是没必要去作旧的,如果新泥料作出这些特点会很变扭。 </div><br/></td>
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<p>讲故事.</p>
发表于 2009-7-20 03:26:26 | 显示全部楼层
<p>不靠谱</p>
发表于 2009-7-20 09:19:02 | 显示全部楼层
晕,真是看不懂。但要我看道这壶就不会要。
发表于 2009-7-20 10:16:30 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>☆紫玉金砂☆</i>在2009-7-17 12:17:30的发言:</b><br/>
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<div>还是我自己说说此壶来历,专家们再给点意见吧!<br/>此壶于南京溧水县省级开发区出土,当时的出土地点为前韩村,(现已成平地)这里发现一片明末清初墓葬,当时我赶到现场时整地都是机器挖机工作,周围不少围观群众,只有全品他们才要,残品已被挖机翻滚埋到地里。与此壶同时挖出的还有铁剪、紫砂茶叶罐、瓷碗等,由于年份久远加之铁剪紧靠壶身放置,导致壶身一侧铁锈迹斑斑清晰可视。由同时出土的瓷碗有众多老藏家、瓷器古玩商认定为明末清初之物。此壶工艺特点:一是泥料与茶叶罐近似呈紫红色(壶内、盖内色泽),二是铁锈经反复处理,仍难除去,已和壶身融为一体。三是细部做工,嘴、把竹刀的修刮,与壶身的衔接,镂空钮与盖面的镶接,都能看到明细接痕,壶内指甲、指纹节腠印记环绕身筒一圈。盖内干净,流孔和出气孔圆椭不规。个人认为这些特点新壶是没必要去作旧的,如果新泥料作出这些特点会很变扭。 </div><br/></td>
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<p><font face="Verdana">紫</font><font face="Verdana">兄<font face="Verdana">好</font>:<font face="Verdana">看</font><font face="Verdana">此<font face="Verdana">帖</font><font face="Verdana">你<font face="Verdana">在<font face="Verdana">溧</font><font face="Verdana">水<font face="Verdana">出</font><font face="Verdana">土<font face="Verdana">现</font><font face="Verdana">场<font face="Verdana">目</font><font face="Verdana">睹<font face="Verdana">全</font><font face="Verdana">过<font face="Verdana">程</font>,<font face="Verdana">我</font><font face="Verdana">不<font face="Verdana">会</font><font face="Verdana">怀<font face="Verdana">疑</font><font face="Verdana">兄<font face="Verdana">讲<font face="Verdana">的</font><font face="Verdana">经<font face="Verdana">过</font>.<font face="Verdana">但</font><font face="Verdana">个<font face="Verdana">人</font><font face="Verdana">还<font face="Verdana">是</font><font face="Verdana">与<font face="Verdana">坛</font><font face="Verdana">友<font face="Verdana">看</font><font face="Verdana">法<font face="Verdana">一</font><font face="Verdana">致-------<font face="Verdana">此</font><font face="Verdana">壶<font face="Verdana">是</font><font face="Verdana">仿<font face="Verdana">品</font>!</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></p>
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