松窗静趣 释部谈空 邵云儒

一丸轩

1928年的好瓶.

朴居

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<p>初到宝地<br/>不知深浅<br/>谢采兄提醒<br/><br/>不过<br/>都是玩家<br/>不过过手<br/>总是憾事</p></div><br/></td>
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<p>期待着潜园兄继续。</p>

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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>一言</i>在2010-2-22 22:20:15的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>刻饰精美好对瓶。邵刻一流是肯定滴，但一定要在清晚民初这一紫砂刻饰高手辈出的战国时期分出一个第一名，恐有难度。潜陶，玉屏如何？东溪，羡渔又如何？还真自成一家，难分仲伯。 </div><br/></td>
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<p>版主光临 欢迎&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br/>一言兄所言及是 都是高手名家&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br/>我刚入门的时候有朋友说陈少亭乃民国第一刻手&nbsp; <br/>余不服&nbsp; <br/>应常在友人家观北岩作品自那一刻喜上砂器&nbsp; <br/>那是一幅虫草 <br/>视觉效果不让白石老人之虫草&nbsp; <br/>至今所见存世砂器 <br/>末出其右&nbsp; <br/>故有此第一之说</p></div><br/></td>
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<p>原来如此</p>

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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>扫地</i>在2010-2-22 22:59:50的发言：</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>一言</i>在2010-2-22 22:20:15的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>刻饰精美好对瓶。邵刻一流是肯定滴，但一定要在清晚民初这一紫砂刻饰高手辈出的战国时期分出一个第一名，恐有难度。潜陶，玉屏如何？东溪，羡渔又如何？还真自成一家，难分仲伯。 </div><br/></td>
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<p>邵还是略略迟些，民国中后期，1920年以后作品较多。<br/>以此瓶为例，利永公司的年份就是利用公司之后的。<br/></p></div><br/></td>
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<p>兄考证有据 信服<br/>邵本是书画家<br/>后以刀带笔<br/>非一般名手依稿动刀<br/></p></div><br/></td>
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<p>邵生于光绪四年，三零年逝世，清晚民初正为其艺术创作的活跃期，成熟期。民国后期肯定和邵无缘，如有三零年以后的绝对托款无疑。<br/>依稿动刀的刻手当然一般，此时绝非名家。如以后精进而脱稿运刀如飞亦可能成为大名家滴。</p>

潜园

<p>一言兄所言</p>
<p>当乃一人之言</p>
<p>也是众友所想</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>虫草一图</p>
<p>择日另开一帖</p>
<p>一起批判</p>

潜园

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>一丸轩</i>在2010-2-23 15:32:01的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>1928年的好瓶. </div><br/></td>
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<p>谢谢&nbsp; <br/>余见此瓶书法略胜绘画</p>

潜园

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>朴居</i>在2010-2-23 17:46:30的发言：</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>潜园</i>在2010-2-23 15:26:33的发言：</b><br/>
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<p>初到宝地<br/>不知深浅<br/>谢采兄提醒<br/><br/>不过<br/>都是玩家<br/>不过过手<br/>总是憾事</p></div><br/></td>
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<p>期待着潜园兄继续。</p></div><br/></td>
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<p>兄有邵云儒刻绘精品<br/>也让我养养眼&nbsp; 握手</p>

潜园

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>一言</i>在2010-2-23 21:15:53的发言：</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>潜园</i>在2010-2-23 10:14:58的发言：</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>一言</i>在2010-2-22 22:20:15的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>刻饰精美好对瓶。邵刻一流是肯定滴，但一定要在清晚民初这一紫砂刻饰高手辈出的战国时期分出一个第一名，恐有难度。潜陶，玉屏如何？东溪，羡渔又如何？还真自成一家，难分仲伯。 </div><br/></td>
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<p>版主光临 欢迎&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br/>一言兄所言及是 都是高手名家&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br/>我刚入门的时候有朋友说陈少亭乃民国第一刻手&nbsp; <br/>余不服&nbsp; <br/>应常在友人家观北岩作品自那一刻喜上砂器&nbsp; <br/>那是一幅虫草 <br/>视觉效果不让白石老人之虫草&nbsp; <br/>至今所见存世砂器 <br/>末出其右&nbsp; <br/>故有此第一之说</p></div><br/></td>
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<p>原来如此</p></div><br/></td>
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<p>鉴赏就是比较<br/>没有实物对比<br/>当然就分不出优劣</p>

潜园

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<div>刻饰精美好对瓶。邵刻一流是肯定滴，但一定要在清晚民初这一紫砂刻饰高手辈出的战国时期分出一个第一名，恐有难度。潜陶，玉屏如何？东溪，羡渔又如何？还真自成一家，难分仲伯。 </div><br/></td>
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<p>邵还是略略迟些，民国中后期，1920年以后作品较多。<br/>以此瓶为例，利永公司的年份就是利用公司之后的。<br/></p></div><br/></td>
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<p>兄考证有据 信服<br/>邵本是书画家<br/>后以刀带笔<br/>非一般名手依稿动刀<br/></p></div><br/></td>
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<p>邵生于光绪四年，三零年逝世，清晚民初正为其艺术创作的活跃期，成熟期。民国后期肯定和邵无缘，如有三零年以后的绝对托款无疑。<br/>依稿动刀的刻手当然一般，此时绝非名家。如以后精进而脱稿运刀如飞亦可能成为大名家滴。</p></div><br/></td>
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<p>民国托北岩款很多<br/>不看年款<br/>就作品本身也可把它否决<br/><br/>邵氏在清未民初的陶艺界影响很大<br/>他在艺校任职<br/>其 艺技风格 和 艺术思想<br/>影响了几代刻陶艺人</p>

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<div>刻饰精美好对瓶。邵刻一流是肯定滴，但一定要在清晚民初这一紫砂刻饰高手辈出的战国时期分出一个第一名，恐有难度。潜陶，玉屏如何？东溪，羡渔又如何？还真自成一家，难分仲伯。 </div><br/></td>
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<p>版主光临 欢迎&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br/>一言兄所言及是 都是高手名家&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br/>我刚入门的时候有朋友说陈少亭乃民国第一刻手&nbsp; <br/>余不服&nbsp; <br/>应常在友人家观北岩作品自那一刻喜上砂器&nbsp; <br/>那是一幅虫草 <br/>视觉效果不让白石老人之虫草&nbsp; <br/>至今所见存世砂器 <br/>末出其右&nbsp; <br/>故有此第一之说</p></div><br/></td>
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<p>原来如此</p></div><br/></td>
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<p>鉴赏就是比较<br/>没有实物对比<br/>当然就分不出优劣</p></div><br/></td>
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<p>就瓶上的字来说，好则好矣，第一还待众人评判。至于虫草一说也要一睹芳容方可对比。。。。。。一人之言</p>

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一对好瓶，刻画精美。此物评论众多，说明它可爱，对古人艺术评判不要绝对化，历代成名者都有其独特方面，无须绝对比拟，让我们享受艺人留给人类的财富。

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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>潜园</i>在2010-2-25 10:16:12的发言：</b><br/>
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<p>一言兄所言</p>
<p>当乃一人之言</p>
<p>也是众友所想</p>
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<p>虫草一图</p>
<p>择日另开一帖</p>
<p>一起批判</p></div><br/>建议还是在家憋宝较好！</td>
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好刻不错，成对难得！

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