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pj

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>潜园</i>在2010-4-29 14:41:12的发言：</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>gina</i>在2010-4-29 14:01:54的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>清初好桶 </div><br/></td>
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<p>清初 明末 怎样界定&nbsp; 握手</p></div><br/></td>
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金刚钻

好家伙，这个年份好，砂也好

金刚钻

断为明末清初较为妥帖

enjoy

也看明末清初

追壺一生

老桶

潜园

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>淮以下是引用<i>清淨</i>在2010-4-29 15:19:36的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>看兄很有把握是明代　應該有明確落款<br/>一般保守斷代還是會斷明末清出<img title="中国壶迷论坛" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www.zghmbbs.com/images/emot/em27.gif" onload="imgresize(this);" align="middle" border="0"/> </div><br/></td>
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<p>出土的老紫砂壶流传到藏家手中<br/>通常随出土的其它器物一般都流失了<br/>缺少一个很有力的辅证</p>

[此贴子已经被作者于2010-4-30 12:51:55编辑过]

小黃

有款就亮款阿<br/>

如云漂泊

<p>看青花小酒杯，应该在明晚天启～</p>

潜园

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>采臣</i>在2010-4-30 15:06:42的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>&nbsp;看老樗椒人真迹，恭喜潜兄得重器！<br/></div><br/></td>
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<p>非老樗散人<br/>只是在求证而已</p>

潜园

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>小黃</i>在2010-4-30 15:20:36的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>有款就亮款阿<br/></div><br/></td>
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<p>有款<br/>会亮的<br/>只是用客观世界里的客观存在来说明一个问题<br/>先亮款 易主观为入<br/>所以当客观事物定性后<br/>落款就容易定性了</p>

潜园

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>如云漂泊</i>在2010-4-30 16:17:30的发言：</b><br/>
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<p>看青花小酒杯，应该在明晚天启～</p></div><br/></td>
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<p>兄对青花很有研究<br/>一张照片能看八九<br/>佩服</p>

潜园

<p>青花杯实物上手<br/>可定年代为明晚<br/>这点无疑</p>

六方

紫砂精确断代很难啊,不象瓷器.只能大概其啊.

藏壺

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>潜园</i>在2010-4-30 17:18:03的发言：</b><br/>
       
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<div><p>青花杯实物上手<br/>可定年代为明晚<br/>这点无疑</p>
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</div><p></p>可惜沒有墓誌銘搭配,單憑瓷杯也難分明末或是清初!<br/>單看壶本身金沙隱現,氣度恢弘,實有名家風範~<br/>

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