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评壶 看真看假 看好看坏 每个人都有发表自己看法的权利。<br/><strong><font color="#ff0000" size="5">可以不认同某个观点，但我们尊重每个朋友发表自已观点的权利！！！<br/></font></strong>做个假设，即使所有人都看真，连作者本人都认可，但某个朋友看假，只要不涉及人身，政治，宗教，法律等，那么我们尊重其发表自已观点的权利！

pj

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>清风</i>在2011-1-18 23:07:12的发言：</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>pj</i>在2011-1-18 19:49:40的发言：</b><br/>
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<p><font face="Verdana">清</font><font face="Verdana">风<font face="Verdana">兄</font>,<font face="Verdana">本<font face="Verdana">不<font face="Verdana">想</font><font face="Verdana">回<font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">贴,,<font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">可<font face="Verdana">能<font face="Verdana">真<font face="Verdana">的</font><font face="Verdana">有<font face="Verdana">些</font><font face="Verdana">太<font face="Verdana">叫</font><font face="Verdana">劲,,aa123<font face="Verdana">懂<font face="Verdana">不</font><font face="Verdana">懂<font face="Verdana">壶</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">他</font><font face="Verdana">的<font face="Verdana">事</font>,,<font face="Verdana">他</font><font face="Verdana">只<font face="Verdana">能</font><font face="Verdana">看<font face="Verdana">到<font face="Verdana">晚</font><font face="Verdana">清<font face="Verdana">也</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">他</font><font face="Verdana">的<font face="Verdana">事</font>,,<font face="Verdana">这<font face="Verdana">与</font><font face="Verdana">他<font face="Verdana">是</font><font face="Verdana">不<font face="Verdana">是</font><font face="Verdana">垃<font face="Verdana">圾<font face="Verdana">本</font></font><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana">两</font><font face="Verdana">回<font face="Verdana">事</font>,,<font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">老</font><font face="Verdana">同<font face="Verdana">志</font>,,<font face="Verdana">说</font><font face="Verdana">话<font face="Verdana">也</font><font face="Verdana">该<font face="Verdana">讲</font><br/><font face="Verdana">些</font><font face="Verdana">起<font face="Verdana">码<font face="Verdana">道</font><font face="Verdana">理,,<font face="Verdana">正</font><font face="Verdana">常<font face="Verdana">回</font><font face="Verdana">贴<font face="Verdana">与<font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">个</font></font><font 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<p><font size="5">pj兄，我也不想回你的帖子。<br/><br/>按你帖子的原话讲“<font face="Verdana">正</font><font face="Verdana">常<font face="Verdana">回</font><font face="Verdana">贴<font face="Verdana">与<font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">个</font></font><font face="Verdana">垃</font><font face="Verdana">圾..<font face="Verdana">这</font><font face="Verdana">是</font><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana">两</font><font face="Verdana">个<font face="Verdana">概</font><font face="Verdana">念</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font>”，确实是两个概念；观赏陈用卿的壶给我带来了十分的快乐，给广大的真诚的壶友高手也肯定带来欢乐，对于aa123及其那类人·则不一定，因他们想·指鹿为马，试图不让广大壶友们公认这把陈用卿壶是真品，是火他们用纸是包不住的，奉劝这类人到应该把心态摆好的火候了，因大多数高手对这把壶心知肚明，其中·只有极少数别具心态之那类人再搅。<br/><br/>我在我的帖子中，我讲的是客观正直的道理，强理正确就是正理，无可厚非。在论坛上，我想：不是谁说了算，理说了算，我奉劝那类人别干强加于人的事，不要自己说了算。<br/><br/>你说我心态如何如何，我阳光上帖，坦坦荡荡！堂堂正正！我决不会护斜理·指责正理，我心态问心自安，没贬低过别人的帖子，没参与相互拍~，壶友们东西感动了我·就回帖·顶帖。<br/><br/>我聚水堂上“误发”重了一次帖子，自己发觉时已经超过编辑时限了，两个帖上都有人跟帖，这样就成两个贴了，何来三帖？？你别无误传！<br/><br/>我陈用卿这把壶上的字，书法刻字我仔细对照了，我就敢说：泥料就是明末的泥料。从书法·刻字·做工就是陈用卿的无疑。盖·壶一体，我就敢说绝对是原始原装套的陈用卿的真品。许多公开高手，社会上高手识者，也都确认。（至于打电话，手机短信，网上短信，欲---者，等等，无可奉告。）<br/><br/>··123及其那类人，他若继续搅下去，越摸自己越黑，他算个镜子，不信？哪位高手敢说这把陈用卿的壶假！他敢说的时候，就是他栽面的时候，只有一个原因：我陈用卿这把壶是真品！！<br/><br/>谨此，用我陈用卿壶上茶，祝PJ兄新年快乐！<br/></font><br/></p></div><br/></td>
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<p><font face="Verdana">我</font><font face="Verdana">不<font face="Verdana">知</font><font face="Verdana">你<font face="Verdana">能</font><font face="Verdana">说<font face="Verdana">明</font><font face="Verdana">什<font face="Verdana">么<font face="Verdana">问<font face="Verdana">题</font><font face="Verdana">？</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></p>

pj

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>面南背北</i>在2011-1-18 23:32:15的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>论坛所有帖子，一般我是，每贴必详看，这两天琐事缠身，没细看，首先，我失职，在此认错。<br/>我的观点：<br/>1 &nbsp;前面aa123 的发言&nbsp;，并无不当之处。<br/>2&nbsp; 清风 对坛友的回帖 是带有些情绪的。<br/>3&nbsp; 清风的回帖：你是一个垃圾，精品不懂·也分不清的人，你拿着垃圾还“有请---点评”，你不汗颜吗？你首先学习了吗？？你有半点自知之明吗？？就你这种程度，你就敢大言不惭的说我的壶“也就晚清吧，这也是咱玩老壶的必须知道的常识”，唉---！我用世上什么字眼说你？形容你?!<br/>&nbsp;&nbsp; 这一贴是有问题 带有人身攻击味道的。<br/>&nbsp; 但有一点 &nbsp;清风并没有说aa123是垃圾 &nbsp;可能是文字断句让各位误会了。<br/>4 清风回帖虽有人身攻击味道，但尚没有到封的程度。但希望引以为戒。<br/>5 欢迎继续讨论 就壶论壶 但任何人，再有违规，坚决不姑息迁就！ </div><br/></td>
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<p><font face="Verdana">象</font><font face="Verdana">他<font face="Verdana">那<font face="Verdana">样<font face="Verdana">已</font><font face="Verdana">不<font face="Verdana">让</font><font face="Verdana">人<font face="Verdana">讲</font><font face="Verdana">话,,<font face="Verdana">贴<font face="Verdana">任</font><font face="Verdana">何<font face="Verdana">壶</font><font face="Verdana">都<font face="Verdana">无</font><font face="Verdana">意<font face="Verdana">义</font><font face="Verdana">！</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></p>

kyleshen

&nbsp;毋意&nbsp; 毋必&nbsp; 毋固&nbsp; 毋我

pj

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>清风</i>在2011-1-18 23:07:12的发言：</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>pj</i>在2011-1-18 19:49:40的发言：</b><br/>
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<p><font face="Verdana">清</font><font face="Verdana">风<font face="Verdana">兄</font>,<font face="Verdana">本<font face="Verdana">不<font face="Verdana">想</font><font face="Verdana">回<font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">贴,,<font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">可<font face="Verdana">能<font face="Verdana">真<font face="Verdana">的</font><font face="Verdana">有<font face="Verdana">些</font><font face="Verdana">太<font face="Verdana">叫</font><font face="Verdana">劲,,aa123<font face="Verdana">懂<font face="Verdana">不</font><font face="Verdana">懂<font face="Verdana">壶</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">他</font><font face="Verdana">的<font face="Verdana">事</font>,,<font face="Verdana">他</font><font face="Verdana">只<font face="Verdana">能</font><font face="Verdana">看<font face="Verdana">到<font face="Verdana">晚</font><font face="Verdana">清<font face="Verdana">也</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">他</font><font face="Verdana">的<font face="Verdana">事</font>,,<font face="Verdana">这<font face="Verdana">与</font><font face="Verdana">他<font face="Verdana">是</font><font face="Verdana">不<font face="Verdana">是</font><font face="Verdana">垃<font face="Verdana">圾<font face="Verdana">本</font></font><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana">两</font><font face="Verdana">回<font face="Verdana">事</font>,,<font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">老</font><font face="Verdana">同<font face="Verdana">志</font>,,<font face="Verdana">说</font><font face="Verdana">话<font face="Verdana">也</font><font face="Verdana">该<font face="Verdana">讲</font><br/><font face="Verdana">些</font><font face="Verdana">起<font face="Verdana">码<font face="Verdana">道</font><font face="Verdana">理,,<font face="Verdana">正</font><font face="Verdana">常<font face="Verdana">回</font><font face="Verdana">贴<font face="Verdana">与<font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">个</font></font><font 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face="Verdana">之<font face="Verdana">事</font>,,<font face="Verdana">大</font><font face="Verdana">家<font face="Verdana">只</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">凭</font><font face="Verdana">自<font face="Verdana">已</font><font face="Verdana">感<font face="Verdana">观</font><font face="Verdana">去<font face="Verdana">评</font><font 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<p><font size="5">pj兄，我也不想回你的帖子。<br/><br/>按你帖子的原话讲“<font face="Verdana">正</font><font face="Verdana">常<font face="Verdana">回</font><font face="Verdana">贴<font face="Verdana">与<font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">个</font></font><font face="Verdana">垃</font><font face="Verdana">圾..<font face="Verdana">这</font><font face="Verdana">是</font><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana">两</font><font face="Verdana">个<font face="Verdana">概</font><font face="Verdana">念</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font>”，确实是两个概念；观赏陈用卿的壶给我带来了十分的快乐，给广大的真诚的壶友高手也肯定带来欢乐，对于aa123及其那类人·则不一定，因他们想·指鹿为马，试图不让广大壶友们公认这把陈用卿壶是真品，是火他们用纸是包不住的，奉劝这类人到应该把心态摆好的火候了，因大多数高手对这把壶心知肚明，其中·只有极少数别具心态之那类人再搅。<br/><br/>我在我的帖子中，我讲的是客观正直的道理，强理正确就是正理，无可厚非。在论坛上，我想：不是谁说了算，理说了算，我奉劝那类人别干强加于人的事，不要自己说了算。<br/><br/>你说我心态如何如何，我阳光上帖，坦坦荡荡！堂堂正正！我决不会护斜理·指责正理，我心态问心自安，没贬低过别人的帖子，没参与相互拍~，壶友们东西感动了我·就回帖·顶帖。<br/><br/>我聚水堂上“误发”重了一次帖子，自己发觉时已经超过编辑时限了，两个帖上都有人跟帖，这样就成两个贴了，何来三帖？？你别无误传！<br/><br/>我陈用卿这把壶上的字，书法刻字我仔细对照了，我就敢说：泥料就是明末的泥料。从书法·刻字·做工就是陈用卿的无疑。盖·壶一体，我就敢说绝对是原始原装套的陈用卿的真品。许多公开高手，社会上高手识者，也都确认。（至于打电话，手机短信，网上短信，欲---者，等等，无可奉告。）<br/><br/>··123及其那类人，他若继续搅下去，越摸自己越黑，他算个镜子，不信？哪位高手敢说这把陈用卿的壶假！他敢说的时候，就是他栽面的时候，只有一个原因：我陈用卿这把壶是真品！！<br/><br/>谨此，用我陈用卿壶上茶，祝PJ兄新年快乐！<br/></font><br/></p></div><br/></td>
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<p><font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">的<font face="Verdana">壶</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">不</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">陈</font><font face="Verdana">用<font face="Verdana">卿</font><font face="Verdana">与<font face="Verdana">我</font><font face="Verdana">一<font face="Verdana">点</font><font face="Verdana">关<font face="Verdana">系</font><font face="Verdana">也<font face="Verdana">没</font><font face="Verdana">有,,<font face="Verdana">能<font face="Verdana">否</font><font face="Verdana">给<font face="Verdana">人</font><font face="Verdana">带<font face="Verdana">来</font><font face="Verdana">快<font face="Verdana">乐</font><font face="Verdana">也<font face="Verdana">没</font><font face="Verdana">任<font face="Verdana">何</font><font face="Verdana">关<font face="Verdana">系</font>,,<font face="Verdana">但</font><font face="Verdana">你<font face="Verdana">的</font><font face="Verdana">语<font face="Verdana">言</font><font face="Verdana">给<font face="Verdana">人<font face="Verdana">带</font><font face="Verdana">来<font face="Verdana">不<font face="Verdana">悦</font><font face="Verdana">到<font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">与</font><font face="Verdana">你<font face="Verdana">修</font><font face="Verdana">养<font face="Verdana">有<font face="Verdana">很<font face="Verdana">大</font><font face="Verdana">关<font face="Verdana">系</font>,,<font face="Verdana">别</font><font face="Verdana">人<font face="Verdana">一<font face="Verdana">讲<font face="Verdana">话</font><font face="Verdana">就<font face="Verdana">功</font><font face="Verdana">击,<font face="Verdana">嚗</font><font face="Verdana">努..<br/><font face="Verdana">老<font face="Verdana">同</font><font face="Verdana">志<font face="Verdana">谦</font><font face="Verdana">虚<font face="Verdana">点</font>,,<font face="Verdana">虚</font><font face="Verdana">心<font face="Verdana">使</font><font face="Verdana">人<font face="Verdana">进<font face="Verdana">步</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">小</font><font face="Verdana">学<font face="Verdana">生</font><font face="Verdana">的<font face="Verdana">课</font><font face="Verdana">题,,<font face="Verdana">我</font><font face="Verdana">们<font face="Verdana">一<font face="Verdana">直<font face="Verdana">在</font><font face="Verdana">自<font face="Verdana">用</font><font face="Verdana">！</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></p>

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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>清风</i>在2011-1-19 11:45:33的发言：</b><br/>
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<div><font size="5">有事暂离开，两天后上网。</font> </div><br/></td>
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<p><font face="Verdana">很<font face="Verdana">难</font><font face="Verdana">把<font face="Verdana">你<font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana">语</font><font face="Verdana">言<font face="Verdana">与</font><font face="Verdana">一<font face="Verdana">个</font>60<font face="Verdana">多</font><font face="Verdana">岁<font face="Verdana">老</font><font face="Verdana">同<font face="Verdana">志<font face="Verdana">挂</font><font face="Verdana">上<font face="Verdana">号</font>,,<font face="Verdana">自</font><font face="Verdana">说<font face="Verdana">自</font><font face="Verdana">话,,<font face="Verdana">讲</font><font face="Verdana">些<font face="Verdana">别</font><font face="Verdana">人<font face="Verdana">听</font><font face="Verdana">不<font face="Verdana">懂<font face="Verdana">语</font><font face="Verdana">言,,<font face="Verdana">让<font face="Verdana">我<font face="Verdana">想</font><font face="Verdana">起.."<font face="Verdana">用</font><font face="Verdana">时<font face="Verdana">方</font><font face="Verdana">知<font face="Verdana">读<font face="Verdana">书</font><font face="Verdana">少"<font face="Verdana">这</font><font face="Verdana">句<font face="Verdana">话</font>,,<font face="Verdana">但</font><font face="Verdana">对<font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">不<font face="Verdana">适</font><font face="Verdana">用..<font face="Verdana">！</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></p>

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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>清风</i>在2011-1-19 11:45:33的发言：</b><br/>
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<div><font size="5">有事暂离开，两天后上网。</font> </div><br/></td>
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<p><font face="Verdana">我<font face="Verdana">到</font><font face="Verdana">是<font face="Verdana">希</font><font face="Verdana">望<font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">永<font face="Verdana">远<font face="Verdana">离</font></font><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana">开<font face="Verdana">这</font><font face="Verdana">个<font face="Verdana">网</font><font face="Verdana">站,,<font face="Verdana">别</font><font face="Verdana">再<font face="Verdana">来,</font><font face="Verdana">,<font face="Verdana">抱<font face="Verdana">着</font><font face="Verdana">你<font face="Verdana">的</font><font face="Verdana">陈<font face="Verdana">用<font face="Verdana">卿<font face="Verdana">壶</font><font face="Verdana">走<font face="Verdana">走<font face="Verdana">比</font><font face="Verdana">在<font face="Verdana">网</font><font face="Verdana">上<font face="Verdana">打</font><font face="Verdana">嘴<font face="Verdana">皮</font><font face="Verdana">好,,<font face="Verdana">记<font face="Verdana">住</font>,<font face="Verdana">空<font face="Verdana">闲</font><font face="Verdana">时<font face="Verdana">去<font face="Verdana">读</font><font face="Verdana">点<font face="Verdana">书</font>,,<font face="Verdana">有</font><font face="Verdana">好<font face="Verdana">处</font>,,<font face="Verdana">听<font face="Verdana">听<font face="Verdana">别</font><font face="Verdana">人<font face="Verdana">讲</font><font face="Verdana">话<font face="Verdana">对</font><font face="Verdana">你<font face="Verdana">更</font><font face="Verdana">有<font face="Verdana">益</font>,,<font face="Verdana">尽</font><font face="Verdana">管<font face="Verdana">你</font><font face="Verdana">听<font face="Verdana">不<font face="Verdana">进</font>,,<br/><font face="Verdana">但</font><font face="Verdana">听<font face="Verdana">了<font face="Verdana">总<font face="Verdana">比</font><font face="Verdana">不<font face="Verdana">听</font><font face="Verdana">好,,<font face="Verdana">别</font><font face="Verdana">以<font face="Verdana">为</font><font face="Verdana">带<font face="Verdana">副</font><font face="Verdana">眼<font face="Verdana">镜</font><font face="Verdana">就<font face="Verdana">自</font><font face="Verdana">认<font face="Verdana">为</font><font face="Verdana">可<font face="Verdana">以</font><font face="Verdana">目<font face="Verdana">空</font><font face="Verdana">一<font face="Verdana">切</font><font face="Verdana">！</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></p>

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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>清风</i>在2011-1-19 11:10:21的发言：</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>aa123</i>在2011-1-18 22:26:29的发言：</b><br/>
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<div>记得天地方园李明兄说过；有壶好好玩。很对！很给力！是每个玩壶人的正常心态，是雅玩！在当今商品化大潮下一些贩壶的很难做到，但又必须做到！否则在咱们论坛上玩得就毫无意义，不会给网友们带来快乐！！！<br/>就壶论壶：楼主刻款用卿的身桶的形状和盖子制式不协调，不排除清晚老仿或其它原因，是为妖。泥料泥门，包浆看不出传世的样子，很奇怪。个人坚持认为盖子老的，看清晚的。<br/>楼主为了那个自称的陈用卿壶，对于不同看法出言讥讽，继而大动肝火，出口成脏。短信电话，让人改口。何苦！！！<br/>证明了吗？陈用卿了吗？看看；有人说明晚吗？有人说是陈用卿了吗？？教教你，要知道清晚的东西也是老的！！！<br/>也算前辈之人了，不讲理，爆粗口，不难为情还自以为是，得意！范儿！别人都为你脸红。。。。<br/>再劝你一句；千万别激动。<br/>请注意回帖时字小点，看得清的，有理不在字大。 </div><br/></td>
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<p><font size="5">aa123，你敢把你“新垃圾瓶”贴上来吗？你不怕脸红·就让大（家）伙看看嘛。让“瓶”现现眼！<br/><br/>你这种不怕脸红的人，别人为你脸红----但你自己不知道脸红，因你是不知脸红的人！<br/><br/>我的壶，你越评·壶本身低不了，你本身却越来越低！<br/><br/>电话和朋友沟通一事，你别歪曲事实，壶友朋友私人之间，无冤无仇，由于开始几张图片偏色，朋友误判，我理解，沟通一下，说明情况，给朋友说明情况是我的负责任，同时，给朋友明确表示，实事求是，对错朋友自己判断发表看法，这是注意朋友之间的“人情”关系，<br/><br/>到了论坛上，朋友之间辩与论，那是“理”的问题，“人情”·朋友之间已电话沟通过了，理到了。论坛上讲理，有理见天下，不存私情，讲的是理，有情无情，你自己领略。<br/><br/>总之，前者是“人情”关系，后者是“事理”关系，当然，这点对你来说是不懂！你的污蔑不奇怪。因你不懂“---”“---”！！<br/></font><br/></p></div><br/></td>
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<p>一个人从不懂开始，通过学习提高了眼力很正常。可悲的是；不懂装懂自以为是，可恶的是；指鹿为马胡搅蛮横！一付霸王嘴脸。。。。。。</p>

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接触20余年了，水平不在250以上，不在250以下，正好250！<br/>就壶论壶，说说我个人对此壶的看法。<br/>1&nbsp; 壶是老的 且不错<br/>2&nbsp; 虽老 但不看真 清末还是民国仿 不好说。<br/>3&nbsp; 盖子拿不准 像原盖又有些不舒服 说不是原盖 也无把握 存疑。

aa123

让事实说话，楼主攻击性言词依然存在！！！请管理层注意！！!<br/>所谓瓶其实是个落款康熙年制不知哪窑的新东西，是本人初学吃的药！（当然不止这一个）相信大部分网友都吃过。<br/>感谢论坛让咱找到了良师益友，李明兄有壶好好玩发人警醒；古宜陶兄敢说真话令人敬佩，面管的无私。。众兄弟的学识智慧无一不是营养。。。<br/>受益于论坛当然要报答。我想最好的报答是爱护是保卫！！！营造一个真实的，纯洁的，领先的紫砂爱好者乐园！让我们一起努力吧！！！

面南背北

水平高低是相对的，更不是不变的。<br/>玩的时间，经历。也并不能说明全部。<br/>咱论坛另一个 叫清茗的朋友 刚来论坛对紫砂也不甚了解 贴了几件让大家不看好 甚至被个别人取笑，挖苦。但清茗兄虚心，坦然面对。敢于正视。<br/>现在清茗兄是论坛高手 足可当我老师！

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贺新年

<br/>在某些地方 ，只有名人效应 ，<br/>比如说有些伪作 ，在这个世界名人的手上 ，它能拍上千万高价 ，<br/>有谁敢说它是假的 （各种工艺品包含紫砂壶），但在明人的眼中是一看就知。