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发表于 2009-9-24 14:00:57 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

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发表于 2009-9-24 20:51:47 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>老紫砂</i>在2009-9-24 20:43:50的发言:</b><br/>
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<div><br/><br/>关于时大彬的生卒年月尚无定论,我个人认为时大彬不可能活到清代,请问<font size="-1"><font color="#c60a00">“时大彬</font>(1573——1648)明万历至清顺治年间人”依据何在?</font><br/><br/></div><br/></td>
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<div style="CLEAR: both; OVERFLOW: hidden"></div><img alt="发贴心情" src="http://www2.zghmbbs.com/skins/Default/topicface/face1.gif"/> 老紫砂 说: </tr></tbody></table></div>
<p>支持,目前资料看,时大彬明无疑,但明晚期,能活到清初,几无可能。</p>
发表于 2009-9-24 20:53:29 | 显示全部楼层
疑新!泥绘的不到位,特别是蝙蝠!胎土够明末清初(更偏向明),但型制 泥绘 看乾嘉,个人浅见,说错兄勿怪,望兄再上清晰图,好好的看看胎土@
 楼主| 发表于 2009-9-24 21:00:58 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>老紫砂</i>在2009-9-24 20:43:50的发言:</b><br/>
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<div><br/><br/>关于时大彬的生卒年月尚无定论,我个人认为时大彬不可能活到清代,请问<font size="-1"><font color="#c60a00">“时大彬</font>(1573——1648)明万历至清顺治年间人”依据何在?</font><br/><br/></div><br/></td>
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<div style="CLEAR: both; OVERFLOW: hidden"></div><img alt="发贴心情" src="http://www2.zghmbbs.com/skins/Default/topicface/face1.gif"/> 老紫砂 说: </tr></tbody></table>考诸记载,少山万历间人。张叔未云:顺治十八年,时年已老。然则少山克享天年,清初始殁,可无疑议。《阳羡砂壶图考》据徐秀堂大师在《中国紫砂》中考证时大彬为明万历置清顺治年间人,生卒年代为1573-1648。而台湾的徐鳖润则推测其生于1573卒于1662年,享年89岁。<br/></div>
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发表于 2009-9-24 21:40:54 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>九鼎山房</i>在2009-9-24 21:00:58的发言:</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>老紫砂</i>在2009-9-24 20:43:50的发言:</b><br/>
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<div><br/><br/>关于时大彬的生卒年月尚无定论,我个人认为时大彬不可能活到清代,请问<font size="-1"><font color="#c60a00">“时大彬</font>(1573——1648)明万历至清顺治年间人”依据何在?</font><br/><br/></div><br/></td>
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<p>兄大可不必纠结时大彬的生卒年代。。<br/><br/>传说蒋为时之徒,也不过是传说而已。。<br/><br/>蒋时英约为明万历--崇祯年间(1582--1641)<br/><br/>您的壶泥绘风格绝对到不了清早期,更别说明代了。。(本色泥绘,黑泥绘应略早于白泥绘)<br/><br/>还是那句话,壶开门老,但不看真。。<br/><br/>泥胎个人看到嘉道,当时很多泥绘大壶用的就是这种比较粗的紫砂泥。。<br/><br/>老壶即便是老托款,也是好壶一把,兄大可不必往那里生搬硬套。。<br/><br/>一家之言,供兄参考。。<br/><br/><br/></p>
发表于 2009-9-24 23:18:10 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>老紫砂</i>在2009-9-24 22:53:18的发言:</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>三叶草堂</i>在2009-9-24 22:16:08的发言:</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>老紫砂</i>在2009-9-24 22:13:10的发言:</b><br/>
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<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>三叶草堂</i>在2009-9-24 22:08:30的发言:</b><br/>
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<div>此壶还是请九鼎兄11月带去丁山如何?? </div><br/></td>
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<p><br/>好主意,大家一起探讨交流。</p></div><br/></td>
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<p>到时可以好好向老哥讨教学习,期待。。</p></div><br/></td>
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<p><br/>三叶草堂兄太客气了,相互学习。。。<img title="中国壶迷论坛" alt="" src="http://www.zghmbbs.com/images/emot/em04.gif" onload="imgresize(this);" align="middle" border="0"/></p></div><br/></td>
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<p>不是客气,是真心实意向您学习。。<br/><br/></p>
 楼主| 发表于 2009-9-24 14:04:03 | 显示全部楼层

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发表于 2009-9-24 14:05:29 | 显示全部楼层
<font face="Verdana">有</font><font face="Verdana">多<font face="Verdana">大</font>?</font>
发表于 2009-9-24 14:08:05 | 显示全部楼层
<p>开门泥绘好壶,看嘉道,容量应该不小,600CC左右??</p>
发表于 2009-9-24 14:08:55 | 显示全部楼层
&nbsp;年份有了! 看 清中!&nbsp;
发表于 2009-9-24 14:09:57 | 显示全部楼层
款首见,不识,等高手释疑。。
 楼主| 发表于 2009-9-24 14:12:58 | 显示全部楼层
多谢大家赏评,高10.6壶长18.5
发表于 2009-9-24 14:31:38 | 显示全部楼层
<p>好壶,开门老!款:蒋伯夸</p>
 楼主| 发表于 2009-9-24 14:40:27 | 显示全部楼层
谢版主点评。款应为:蒋伯荂
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